Logging 10 hours of Off Duty

Then that officer was in the wrong for disturbing your 10 hour. I always log sleeper. Never log line 1 unless I'm at home. Been DOT'd several times. Never have had it questioned nor have I ever received a log book violation. Like the book says the only time you should log off duty is when you are not responsible for the truck.

 

You need to read the law. You CAN be off duty in a truck while responsible for the load.

 

There ya go driver. Black and white.

 

What rock have you been living under?

The law changed February 27, 2012.


https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/index.htm




Hours-of-Service (HOS) Regulations – Comparison
Comparison to Prior Rule. [Download PDF Version]
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[TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, width: 15%, align: center"]PROVISION[/TH]
[TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, width: 35%, align: center"]PRIOR RULE[/TH]
[TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, width: 47%, align: center"]UPDATED RULE – COMPLIANCE DATE
JULY 1, 2013[/TH]
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[TR]
[TH="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] Limitations on minimum "34-hour restarts" [/TH]
[TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] None [/TD]
[TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] (1) Must include two periods from 1 a.m. to 5 a.m., home terminal time.
(2) May only be used once per week, 168 hours, measured from the beginning of the previous restart. [/TD]
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[TH="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #acb4bf"] Rest breaks [/TH]
[TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #acb4bf"] None except as limited by other rule provisions. [/TD]
[TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #acb4bf"] May drive only if 8 hours or less have passed since end of driver’s last off-duty or sleeper-berth period of at least 30 minutes. [49 CFR 397.5 mandatory "in attendance" time for hazardous materials may be included in break if no other duties performed] [/TD]
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[TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, align: center"]PROVISION[/TH]
[TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, align: center"]PRIOR RULE[/TH]
[TH="class: LeftTableHeadFMCSA, width: 47%, align: center"]UPDATED RULE – COMPLIANCE DATE
FEBRUARY 27, 2012[/TH]
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[TH="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] On-duty time [/TH]
[TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] Includes any time in CMV except sleeper-berth. [/TD]
[TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] Does not include any time resting in a parked vehicle (also applies to passenger- carrying drivers). In a moving property-carrying CMV, does not include up to 2 hours in passenger seat immediately before or after 8 consecutive hours in sleeper-berth. [/TD]
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[TH="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #acb4bf"]Penalties [/TH]
[TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #acb4bf"] "Egregious" hours of service violations not specifically defined. [/TD]
[TD="class: MiddleAltTDFMCSA1, bgcolor: #acb4bf"] Driving (or allowing a driver to drive) more than 3 hours beyond the driving-time limit may be considered an egregious violation and subject to the maximum civil penalties. Also applies to passenger-carrying drivers. [/TD]
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[TH="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] Oilfield exemption [/TH]
[TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] "Waiting time" for certain drivers at oilfields (which is off-duty but does extend 14-hour duty period) must be recorded and available to FMCSA, but no method or details are specified for the recordkeeping. [/TD]
[TD="class: MiddleTDFMCSA1"] "Waiting time" for certain drivers at oilfields must be shown on logbook or electronic equivalent as off-duty and identified by annotations in "remarks" or a separate line added to "grid." [/TD]
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This thread reminds me of that D-con commercial.

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i log off duty. never been questioned yet.

if i'm on a load taking a 10. then i use both. if i'm going to be parked longer then 10. i stay off duty. sometimes i'll throw sleeper.

if i have nothing to do. i'm off duty. and using pc.

i never take my receipts with me. clerk throws them in the trash. i use my debit card.

i've said this before. it don't matter what you do. it don't matter if you run paper or box. lawyers WILL find someting to use against you. the box is not your savior. there's NONE of us driving 11 straight. and logging 10 sleeper. back and forth. on a consistent basis. day after day, week after week.

 

A man can drive himself crazy worrying about the little stuff. Make the log dept happy as far a SB time goes. If it's 10 in the truck it's SB, home it's Offduty. No audit will dig deeper unless you done something like turn in a receipt for a light bulb. Do company reimbursements outside that time.

I never seen such but if I ever went in the store and come out and there was a trooper standing beside my truck I would go back in the store. I'm good at waiting! How much time does that trooper have?

 

Sir, that link does not support what you're saying. Hypothetically, I'll just assume that you are correct...since we're supposed to log all time not driving and not on-duty as off duty then why haven't the DOT removed line 2? When are we supposed to use line 2? If what you're saying is correct line 2 is unnecessary to even be an option, correct? Instead of posting a link would you please copy and paste the entire regulation and number for all to see so that no one has to go searching for a rule that does not exist?

 

I also want to learn more about this.

However, line 2 is still an absolute requirement for 8/2 split.