Feels like a mistake.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by WI Cupcake, Dec 2, 2013.

  1. WI Cupcake

    WI Cupcake Light Load Member

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    I'm still within my 6mo sign on period with Schneider, and it feels like I've made a mistake. To the point that I and a number of new driver buddies are all having the same woes. To the point that many of us are considering looking elsewhere, and to heck with the 6mo thing.

    I've had weeks where I've busted my tail and brought home $300. I've only had 3 checks over $500 and only one of those over $600. I can't help but feel like I'm getting hosed here. I feel it's partially due to the complete incompetence of who SNI staffs on the weekends. I've lost more time and miles just running less than 100mi to sit for literally hours while something gets "worked" on. I still think if you walk into the offices those days you would hear the Benny Hill song playing in the background...

    I run 12-18 days at a time, my on time is good (could be better, still figuring out how to calculate ETA 's to some places), I have ran 400mi/day on average if the loads are there to permit it (trying to say I'm not one who sits in the lounge at the nearest truck stop), I've heard from management a handful of times that I'm a good driver and my dispatcher says I'm one of his better newbies, yet I'm still drowning in my bills due to lack of pay. I have no prevetables in my short driving career, and have kept a solid driving record prior to my CDL with only one speeding ticket and one accident on there in the last 10 years. My backing skills seem to ebb and flow, but I feel I do decently most days. I seem to get into my doors and parking spots quicker than many other new drivers, even having to jump out and look at things a few times.

    Is the experience I and my SNI friends are having typical for a new driver, or is this a result of working for who we do? It seems like this used to be a good company to work for, but it's very rare to find another pumpkin pilot with more than a year or two with the company, and the ones with 10+ years on them all can't wait to leave or retire.

    Anyone have any recommendations for a different place to go? I have an app in with Gordon, but haven't heard back yet (and upon further reading here, not sure of the quality of that enterprise now). Any other companies that would take a green driver? Or is the grass look greener on the other side because it's fertilized with steer dung?
     
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  3. mickey melon

    mickey melon Medium Load Member

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    Look.....Until every driver becomes represented, Carriers will always do things their way,

    Im an independent owner-operator for over 20 years......your TIME better be important to you.

    Its virtually impossible to have a 'lifestyle' with decent earnings working for a mega-carrier.Believe me sir, They worry about the linings of their pockets before yours.

    If you are SERIOUS about becoming a truck driver..You have 2 options and 2 options only.

    1.start your own company as an independent owner-operator

    2.drive for a unionized carrier


    All else you will be miserable for years to come.............Yes,I do know what im talking about
     
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  4. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    The mistake you made was not going to the tanker division of Schneider.
    Do you have the tanker/hazmat endorsements, TWIC, passport.? Here's some good companies to look at; if you like them then apply and when you get an orientation date, leave Schneider but not before.

    Melton Truck Lines
    SVTN
    Superior-Carriers
    System Transport
    Maverick
    TMC

    There are others where you can make a good weekly paycheck. If you have the endorements there's no reason not to make a grand a week consistantly.
     
  5. luvtotruck

    luvtotruck Road Train Member

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    With your experience, I would certainly stay there till you get some more experience, keep doing what yo are doing till you get more time in. I would certainly like to see one year there before you get the move on!

    Thanks.
    James
     
  6. tow614

    tow614 Road Train Member

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    The only thing I would add is get your 6 months in... I assume you refer to it because they gave you training and need the 6 months to pay it back.

    Won't look good if you bail on that....

    People should do more homework before getting into these deals..

    You can do better depending on where you live and how long you want to stay out if otr is what you want..

    There are some ltl jobs out there but many of the ones that are easy to get on with are horrible at best...

    Been down this road already.. it can get better...
     
  7. Lady K

    Lady K Road Train Member

    Speaking from another 'mega' carrier... It was the same for us. We team but we're getting solo runs. It took changing DMs (dispatch managers) and squeaking politely to higher-ups expressing our concerns before things started to change. Also we got to where we knew the PU/del locations and routes and got into a rhythm... It does take time... And your experience isn't isolated to SNI.
     
  8. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    You have to be a good self-starter, EVERY DAY. You have to be self-motivated and not require a lot of "guidance" from others. If any of those is not the case for you and if you can't manage your time well and get out of bed when you need to get out of bed, and run when you need to run, you will fail in the trucking business, no matter where you try or what type of trucking you try.

    Making a decent living in the dry van, mega-carrier side of trucking is very hard. Too many trucks chasing too few loads. And the few loads there are are short/regional and IMO, unless you just want to starve and run 300 miles/day, you will have a hard time making good money. Look at tanker or the oil field if either work for your home location.
     
  9. WI Cupcake

    WI Cupcake Light Load Member

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    If I part ways before 6mo then I have to pay $1000 because of CDL school. I wrapped my head around it and came to the conclusion that anyone can work a job for 6mo. Here we are. The 2 components I failed to recognize was that pay would be this crummy and home time being this bad of a battle. Was figuring 0.29 cpm on the number of 1800mi/week to gross a shade over $500/wk, taking home about $400/wk. As I said before, this has been a rarity. TAH has been a fight as well. I have submitted my time at home requests or requirements weeks in advance the last 5 times home, and the last 4 have been nothing but awful, running 36-48 hours late, at least. One was coming up against my CDL expiration date (don't ask), which they knew about from the moment I walked in the door. I don't even ask for specific times, just "get me home at any point on this day. I don't care if I'm parking at midnight, just get me there" and they can't cobble together a plan to get me there when I either want or need to be. I know that part of it is the "that's truckin'" mindset, and it wouldn't be so bothersome if either the pay was better or getting home was better, but together bites.

    I know leaving this soon looks bad, but I need to keep the rent paid, lights and phone on, and make my car payment. I'm barely able to pay rent, the phones are about to be shut off any day now, car is at least a month behind, and utilities are due. I need to make something happen and quickly, but I don't want to waste more time on another mistake. What is there to say when an exasperated fiance tells you "you could make this much money flipping burgers, and I'd get to see you more..." I don't fret over the time out and away, but how do I tell her she's wrong when she isn't? Some weeks I wonder why I don't just go flip burgers... Well I know why - I love the work it's self being a trucker.

    To the question about endorsements - I only have my ABCD right now. No hazmat/tanker/anything else. I'm not opposed to it on its face, but I wanted to stay away from it at first to try and make the job as simple and as straightforward while I learned and grew the basic driver skill set.
     
  10. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    Yes stay. At a minimum fulfill your obligation. It's not going to get better anywhere else. You'll just move side wards until you get some experience.

    These companies don't train because they are nice. They train because they can pay cheap wages and boost their profits. They know if you quit there is another newbie at the door waiting to take your seat. Believe it or not Schneider use to be a decent company. As older drivers you can watch trends in the industry over the years. One company will find a way to cut expenses and not long after the rest will follow. You use to never see lease deals. Then one company come up with the plan to get drivers to pay for their trucks and then it wasn't long more and more started doing it. It's the same everywhere. Which one stinks the worse?

    Keep asking your dispatcher for better runs and keep your communication professional. It takes time but one day he'll wake up and realize you are dependable and need minimal supervision. That's the kind of driver a dispatcher likes. They do have their favorites and whiny babies they hate. When there is three drivers in one area and one good load guess who gets it? When you have 100 new drivers on your board it takes awhile for a dispatcher to recognize you and your performance. Once you stand out they start taking better care of you.

    Things won't really get better until one year until you get away from them low wages. These 6 month companies aren't much better. Try to improve what you have already. Then at one year the next company will look at your application and say this guy stuck it out. He's not a quitter. Hire him.

    It was tough in 1995 but I think newbies today have it worse. Look at all the college students out there. They have to penny pinch and live on skid row for 4 years before things get better. One year really isn't that long.
     
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  11. tow614

    tow614 Road Train Member

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    Leaving does not guarantee instant income.

    It takes time with any company to learn their individual systems and dms to learn you.

    You hometime experience is typical of otr.. pretty much the same anywhere you go... I usually get home within 24 hrs sometimes later.. after 12 years I am used to it...

    Anyone who would hire you this soon and after you bailed on your obligation to Schneider would probably be a worse experience....

    There will be some who tell you that there are all kinds of companies out there who will pay you big money and so on...

    Very..very rare...

    If your finances are that bad and you can't make it through this then perhaps you should go back to whatever you did before...
     
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