Dealing with the brokers - what's the best way?

Exactly what i think about the "Good technology" --where else could i ask questions like these and get answers.
Yep -you can learn how to do a lot of things on you tube.
I am glad you are O/O and i hope everything goes great.
Knowledge is a good thing and looks like you can get a lot of info or help on this site.
Going to check out Casanove601 now.

 

[QUOTE="Hang - Man";3696814]Exactly what i think about the "Good technology" --where else could i ask questions like these and get answers.
Yep -you can learn how to do a lot of things on you tube.
I am glad you are O/O and i hope everything goes great.
Knowledge is a good thing and looks like you can get a lot of info or help on this site.
Going to check out Casanove601 now.[/QUOTE]Thanks and GL to you. Happy Holidays. STAY SAFE!!!

 

Why do you think you should get $2/mi or more? Sounds like your a broker. When you call on a load be sure of the TRUE cost/value of the load. You need to understand who your customer is. You can not assume you deserve $2/mi for all runs. I very rarely pay over 1.75/mi and the carriers who carry my loads are happy with the rates the receive. Stop dealing with Brokers and driving for someone else. Use your authority that you applied and paid for. Get ALL of the money on the load. Why would you pay someone 15% of your profit to make a phone call.

 

Directing that comment to me DS2013?

 

Yep, I go round and round with meathead o/o's who think it's smart taking that .85 load just to get out of the area and cover fuel. I tell them, you are just feeding a fire, a fire of ever lower rates. Your better off staying out of those dead areas, and if you get caught in a dry area, don't be afraid to deadhead. Yeah it costs a lot to deadhead, but at least you aren't causing permanent damage to rates everywhere!

 

You got my vote on that comment Rocky. Stay Safe out there.

 

ok so i work with my father we made a company got our own authority when i firsted started working as a dispatch i was quite bad i called the brokers say hello how you doing today they sometimes say good or nothing at all.they tell me about the load like load from houston tx to PA and they were asking i'll give you 2700 so and so if you say how much can you go up they gone say max just tell them if you give give me 3200 i'll take if they say no they find an another but say if you change your mind call me back thats why i do and some do call back. and if its with a tarp add an another 100 dollar or more depending on how big it will be because tarp is a pain in the ### man.

also i use truckstop.com

 

It is mostly about supply and demand. Brokers will usually try to sell the load at it's cheapest at first until they really need the truck. If you are getting a lot of calls in a short time from brokers that usually means there is a shortage of trucks. If that is the case you can demand a much higher rate and stick to it. If the first broker you talk to doesn't agree to pay it the next one or the one after usually will. If they have too many carriers calling them for loads and there are too many trucks than you won't have much negotiating power as a carrier unless you have had a longtime relationship with broker and they know your reputation.

 

I bet you do ALOT of deadheading. Not very smart. Any pay is better than none. You are creating the same problem, but the other way. I hear crazy rates from carriers and laugh at them. When I hear an outrageous rate, I have to ask them if they are brokers. My company DOES NOT do business with brokers. They take too much from the drivers and may not pay the drivers at all. You can't treat every call as a broker. There are very reputable but small manufacturers out there trying to get their product to the public. This includes you and your families. If you charge WAY more than a load is truly worth, then I have to raise my end prices. You have to really know the cost of doing business and what you need to make a profit. Every load is not the same. Different lanes, weights and products effect the cost of a trip. Be realistic, don't hold the trucking industry hostage.

 

Here's the True,Real problem nowadays.

Evertyone and their Brother wants to own a trucking company..They give out authority like candy (You csan thank De-regulation for that)

Brokers AND Shippers alike KNOW..(keyword here) KNOW they can get the Load moved at a Subpar rate MOST of the time.

This occurance is mostly handled by the 3pl(broker)......

brokers are CONFIDENT enough to wait on that bottom-feeder truck. The Europeans,Mexicans,Asians,Middle-easterners ALL have operating Authority these days.YEP all of them,And believe me,THEY WORK CHEAP.

So,The only Losers here are the American Truck Driver that knows the streets.........But CANNOT get the rate he needs due to supply and demand, Too many trucks-Not enough freeight.

Now this isnt always the Norm either.......depending on the lane your in.......Hot Freight.......And other Intangibles can get you a good dollar.

But I'll tell ya folks..This is 2013, Its Hard to get the Dollar you need to profit...You Gotta work smart,Work hard and squeeze every last drop of water from that Damp Brokers towel