My friend need help-bad psp-decent dac-clean mvr

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by RAGIN CAJUN, Dec 19, 2013.

  1. Mev

    Mev Road Train Member

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    What is PSP ?
     
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  3. SheepDog

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    It's something we should all be concerned about, same with the DAC report. Jake Green, google it... it's called Pre-employment Screening Program,,,something like that anyway. Crash data stays for 5 years and inspection data stay for 3 years.

    Anyone know what companies do/don't use it? I filled out an app using Intelliapp2 and it states the company does but, I am hoping it is just stating that for the one's that do, encase they do. I am hoping the company I am trying to get on with, to buy a truck from a current contractor, doesn't look at it.
     
  4. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    It's part of CSA2010. You have your violations and then the PSP which is your percentile ranking comparison of the BASIC scores. I think it's Personal Score Profile but I forget, just guessing. It's kind of like looking at a company's SMS. What's SMS? :biggrin_2559:

    Safety Measurement System.
     
  5. SheepDog

    SheepDog Road Train Member

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    My PSP doesn't give me any ranking, just lists all the crashes I have been, injury's, deaths and what not,. It also lists all my inspections, OOS, violations and what not. It also lists what violation each were like 383.51 and a short description but that is pretty mush all it does.

    I still would like to know where people are getting these points from? Again, I was told by my lawyer my speeding ticket has 30 points. The only points I know of are the FMCSA points associated with each violation, like my speeding ticket is 10. 1 through 10 for each violation and it stops at 60, I think it said. That is when you will be put OOS for some time. At least that is how I read it, or remember reading it the other day. Again, where are these points people talk about, 100 points, 120 points, or 30 points for a speeding ticket? I spent a whole day researching and found nothing that speaks of these high points.
     
  6. SheepDog

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    BTW,,a driver can get their PSP for $10 MVR here is TN was $7 and DAC is free through Hireright
     
  7. RAGIN CAJUN

    RAGIN CAJUN Light Load Member

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    Hate to bust your CHOPS,BUT ALMOST ALL MAJOR CARRIERS USE THIS BU\\$hi+ its absolutely unnecessary,this is another way the trucking industry is weeding TRUCKERS OUT OF BUSINESS.....
     
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  8. RAGIN CAJUN

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    HERES THE WAY IT WORKS,ANYTIME U GET STOPPD BY D.O.T and receive a VIOLATION,IT doesnt matter whether its your TRUCK or COMPANY truck...it GOES ON YOUR COMPANY SAFETY SCORE AND YES YOUR LICENSE PERIOD....END OF STORY...YOU WILL NOT FIND YOUR POINTS ITS NOT ON ANY WEBSITE HAH A HA ...U HAVE TO PAY FOR YOUR PSP...THEN TAKE EVERY VIOLATION STATUE WRITE IT DOWN..GO TO A TRUCKSTOP N BUY A JJKELLER BOOK THE NEW EDITION AND THERES THE CODES WITH THE POINTS YOU HAVE TO ADD IT THEM UP FOR YOURSELF OR U CAN GO ONLINE TO JJKELLER N DOWNLOAD THE STATUES FOR F REE....I BET ALOT OF U SO CALLED OPS N DRIVERS DIDNT KNOW THAT MUCH DID U....LMAO....THERES NO WAY YOU CAN REALLY FIGHT IT,EVERYVIOLATION FROM DA DAY OFF CITATION STAYS ON YOUR CDL FOR 3 YEARS MAX..THEY FALL OF EVERY 12 MONTHS..U GET STOPPED TODAY FOR 8 VIOLATIONS U HAVE TO WAIT 3 YEARS FOR IT FALL OFF..U GET STOPPD TOMORRO FOR 3 VIOLATIONS U HAVE TO WAIT 3 YEARS OF DATE FOR IT O FALL OFF..ITS PRETTY TRICKY IF U DONT KNOW ABOUT IT OR HOW IT WORKS...I DID A SEARCH FOR A FRIEND AND FOUND ONE LAWFIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN THIS AND ITS COSTLY FOR THEM TO GET YOUR CDL BACK CLEAN DEPENDING ON WHATS ON YOUR PSP ,THEY MAY OR MAY NOT TOUCH IT..ITS a long and thought out process to get it clean and did i say $$$$COSTLY,THEY REVIEW YOUR PSP,FILES LOCAL AND FEDERAL PAPERWORK,GO BEFORE A SPECIAL FEDERAL JUDGE,THEY DISCUSS THE CAse...If judge agrees to remove charges,he signs off on paper work..then its sent to federal court,sign off then.sent to local court,then.sent to local dmv,managemen supposedly removes it.from system n cdl,but it TAKES A WHILE NOT NO OVERNIGHT FIX...N DID I SAY COSTLY....LMAO...BOTTOM LINE DONT DO NO STUPID #### TO MAKE D.O.T. BOTHER U..OF COURSE I LIVE N DA REAL WORLD.N THEY CAN STOP U FOR ANYTHING AT ANYGIVEN TIME...ALL D.O.T WILL TELL U IS ITS YOUR CDL,IF U FEEL ITS NOT SAFE DONT DRIVE IT...IF YOUR EMPLOYER FIRES U FOR NOT DRIVING ..THERES A WHISTLE BLOWER CLAUSE...THAT U CAN SUE EMPLOYER.....BOTTOM LINE GUYS B SAFE,SLOW DOWN,WEAR YOUR SEATBELTS,STAY OFF CELLPHONE..OR GET A HANDSFREE DEVICE,PAY ATTENTION ...EVERYCOMPANY HAS A THRESHOLD OF POINT ALLOTMENT ..ONCE U PASS THAT POINT THEY WILL NOT HIRE U..IT DONT MATTER THEY DONT WANNA HEAR IT..OF COURSE MY VET DRIVERS KNO HOW TO HANDLE THEMSELVES ON THE ROAD..JUST TRYNA HLP SUM OF THESE NEW DRIVERS OUT...
     
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  9. SheepDog

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    Your not "busting my chops" or anything,,,I already know that eventually ALL carriers will be using this and they all CAN use it now, for a fee. I know it will cause some grief for good drivers and weed out the bad drivers, at least for a short time. I am at a point that my PSP will keep me from getting hired on with a lot of carriers but, not all. So, I have to work harder to find a carrier, than I did before. In 3 years my record will be clean again, and I will be in much better shape than I am now.

    I agree with your statement; "absolutely unnecessary", I believe that if your given a citation, go to court, and the judge dismisses it, you should not have a record of it. If your innocent, your innocent, but with the PSP you not.
     
  10. Flatbedn

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    I have experience no problems at all securing a job with my "less than desirable" psp.
     
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  11. SheepDog

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    I agree with you 100% Just not sure what this has to do with my post but, no big deal. You are right in what you say. The only way your PSP data will come off is to wait out the 5 years for crash data and 3 years for Inspection data.

    Where are these companies getting their numbers for "their" threshold?
     
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