Fueling strategies to lower fuel costs

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by cpieren, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. RiskyBusiness

    RiskyBusiness Light Load Member

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    Put only what you need per load. Fuel is way too expensive to be topping off every time you fuel you will not have much of a paycheck if any fueling like that. This has worked for me ever since fuel has went thru the roof.
     
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  3. cpieren

    cpieren Bobtail Member

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    I get the fuel economy vs time argument, and I see what both sides are saying. So far he's driven faster and made it to all his receivers early. He's asked for early unloads, hoping to get in another run, but that has not happened yet. So he winds up sitting and waiting and not getting another run anyway and paying the extra money for the lowered fuel economy. I'm thinking slow it down and get the fuel savings since he doesn't seem to be getting more miles in by being early. Is there something I'm missing?
     
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  4. wore out

    wore out Numbered Classic

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    The run harder strategy usually only works for an independent O/O who books his own loads and usually has the week lined out before we leave. Also we are not running what some consider OTR or coast to coast but more regional. Usually our folks want us to turn and burn and have made arrangements for people to be available to help load or unload.
     
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  5. 6 Speed

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    Funny you mention that,(week planned out)cause in the 1 1/2 years I was and O/O I always had my first 2 loads booked before I even left home.Ideally I would run a 3-4 K mile tri-haul and go home.I can honestly say that my second load,which was usually booked 2-3 days in advance,cancelled 100% of the time and I would have to scramble to re-plan. Nobody could convince me that this was for no other reason than brokers re-booking for cheaper rates.
     
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  6. Dinomite

    Dinomite Road Train Member

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    I thought you said you wasn't a professional driver. :)
     
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    I'd be interested to know this as well. My guess is virtually no difference.
     
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  8. cpieren

    cpieren Bobtail Member

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  9. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    (SIGH)

    Bear with me, I find this frustrating. I know you're frustrated because of the money situation, but hear me out:

    Read 'olhand's post once more. The less time you spend on a load, the better it pays. When they offer loads, they will have the pick up date and the delivery date, shipper location, receiver location, and the weight of the load and the line haul. All of these factors weigh in your load selection. All of them. Run into a hole shipper or a hole receiver, mark them in your notes to never return there unless they are paying stupid money.

    Waitaminute, lemme guess...he's on a mileage contract with a sliding pay scale.

    The frustrating thing about all of this is because your husband jumped into fleece truck without knowing the ropes, they can take advantage of him at will. This is why we recommend that a driver start off as a company driver to learn the ropes on their dime. You need to know where the freight lane is. You need to know the good shippers, good receivers, and the gravy runs are. If they have you on a sliding pay scale, you avoid those long runs at all cost. Are they paying fuel surcharge for all miles or just the loaded miles? If they're not paying for deadhead miles, you stay out of the dead zones. DONT DO ANY FAVORS. Hopefully, he doesn't go bust before he learns their system.

    Why didn't you two ask for advice BEFORE going into a lease? "Everyone would have told us not to do it." So easy a caveman can do it. Driving, sure...making money is a different story altogether.
     
  10. cpieren

    cpieren Bobtail Member

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    I get what you're saying. I appreciate your knowledge and info. I can understand your frustration with new guys jumping into things they know not enough about, and then asking over and over about it. My husband and I are both paramedics and have been for a long time so we very much have the gotta do something and do it now mentality, we are definitely looking at that flaw and trying to make smarter decisions. (He needs both knees and both hips replaced, so he can longer be crawling in and out of wrecked cars and up and down hills and over uneven terrain. He's not sure what else he would like to do so that's why he's going the trucker route, before you all start asking why he's now driving a truck instead of that.)

    As far as the lease, agreed, possibly/probably not the best decision. He was told by his trainer and multiple others that with a lease was where he would make the most money. He also asked multiple other drivers while he was in training and really only got one negative response to the lease option. I was very hesitant since he is new to this business, but because it is a walk away lease with no penalties he said he wanted to try it. Maybe not the best decision, but what's done is done. Now we are looking at the best ways to make it work and make more money at it or walk away from the lease and switch to company driving. We are trying to learn from all you guys with experience, we adapt and overcome pretty quickly (the paramedic motto).

    Yes his is on a sliding scale and what y'all have said about taking the short runs makes perfect sense to me. But that brings another question to mind for me. Since he's the fng how will that look if he turns down loads or is too choosy at first? Will that mark his as a "difficult" person and make the load managers assign him last to loads? Is there anything wrong with him requesting the short trips with quick delivery dates? Is there any type of fallout we should be aware of from a request like that before he asks?

    No surcharge on deadhead miles and that brings me back to some of the questions in the previous paragraph if he's trying to avoid those zones as you said.

    Again thank you so much for your time, sharing your knowledge, and being patient with one of the many new guys!
     
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  11. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    If he walks away, they're going to raid his accounts. You know, all the little nickel and dime stuff. See your husband is paying a mileage rate on a sliding pay scale (BS, I know). But they also do a maintenance fund, a tyre fund, Qualcomm, this fund that fund, secretary's new bewbies fund...normally adds up to like twenty something cents per mile. That adds up to be quite a bit of change.

    You can make money on a lease, but you have to be a hardcore hustler with the load selection. Sounds to me that someone in the office is screening his loads. So many slow receivers? One couldn't get so lucky.
     
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