Axle wont slide

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  1. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I got a trailer that I can not get the axle to slide. I'll try to make this brief but, I need to explain what I have tried & what others have done.

    First, I know the axle isnt welded in place because someone else has slid this axle.

    I pulled a van the other day & the axles were all the way back... all the way back. The trailer was loaded so I needed to at least make an effort to slide the axles until I could get to the scales. They wouldn't slide. This trailer has the lever that you lift to release the pins. The handle operates smoothly & works as it should. The slide has four pins, as far as I can reasonably tell... they look like they are all out of the slide & are out of the holes.

    After raising the handle & making sure the pins are releasing the slide, I have pushed & pushed (again, the axles are all the way to the rear). The tires just slide. I even backed up to a concrete thing to block the tires/axles. I pushed & pushed. The trailer just bows up... nothing. Not even sliding a little bit. I can even go back, drop the handle & the pins go right in the holes. It hasn't moved at all.

    Fortunately, the trailer was loaded so I wasn't over axle wt anywhere. I went to my stop, unloaded & tried again. The trailer tires just skidded & bounced. Nothing... not even moving a 1/4 inch.

    I even got a stick & raised the handle all the way up & jammed the stick in there just in case I missed something somewhere. Still no good.

    I took the trailer back to the yard & reported it. They called someone to come look at it & see if they could get the axles slid forward for a load tomorrow. I got back today & they said someone came & got the axle slid forward. So, when I got to the yard I dropped my trailer & hooked to the trailer for tomorrow. I checked the axles & they were only slid about 12 to 18 inches forward & the pins were not lined up with the holes. So, I raised the handle & backed up to slide that axles forward... nothing. The tires just slide. So, I pulled it out of the grass & gravel onto the concrete parking area. Still nothing. So, again, I got a stick, raised the handle all the way & jammed the stick in there. Backed up & the tires just slide.

    I can not figure out why I cant get the axles to slide. Apparently, someone got them to slide forward about 12 - 18 inches in the last day or so while I was gone. I know now for sure the pins aren't the problem cause, they aren't even lined up with the holes... yet the axles still wont slide.

    What am I missing here?

    (I have to leave early tomorrow (Tuesday) so I need to get these axles slid forward before I go. I could wait & call the people that came out but, I need to get this done before I leave)

    Any help/tips/tricks will be appreciated.
     
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  3. Lonesome

    Lonesome Mr. Sarcasm

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    We had several that wouldn't slide at my old job. They ended up taking them to a shop that was able to lubricate the slides. I know they are harder to slide with a lot of weight on them.
    DO NOT pull it with the pins out of the holes. For obvious reasons.
     
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  4. Sly Fox

    Sly Fox Road Train Member

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    Back it against a curb. I've had to do that on an icy parking lot before.

    *edit* just make sure you're not going to rip the mud flaps off.
     
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  5. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    It sounds like it's old and rusty. If you are in freezing temps it can even be frozen.

    If it still gives you problems try to chock the wheels. I always carried a chock with me for them moments. Find a block of wood or a big rock. If nothing else find a curb but be careful about ripping a mudflap off. You might have to flip it over or tie it up. Once you break it free you should get it to slide.

    If you have to slide it back pull a Swifty and cut the corner too quick to grab a corner curb. :)
     
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  6. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I backed up to a curb & pushed.

    Supposedly the people that came out & slide the axles today, were from the shop that works on our trailers.

    I tried sliding the axles after I unloaded as well.

    It is cold here but not freezing.
     
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  7. Jumbo

    Jumbo Road Train Member

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    Can you see down the slides? Is one bent somehow? Did you try spraying lube between the rails? It might take awhile, but it might help.
     
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  8. Wooly Rhino

    Wooly Rhino Road Train Member

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    I spray the silicone lub on the rails. You have to use a lot of it but that is all that is going on. It might take a couple of cans or just a little in the right spots. If the trailer was empty a little heat from a torch works well but it is dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.
     
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  9. Badcable

    Badcable Medium Load Member

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    Some sort of lube oil/grease on the slides, please! Lube them well and slide the axle back and forth a bit once you get it moving. It might take a can or three to get things loosened properly without some brute force help.

    I have had trailers that refuse to move, we tied the axle assembly to a 50K lb forklift and pulled them free. That's the brute force I was talking about.

    Happy Cold!
     
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  10. RedForeman

    RedForeman Momentum Conservationist

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    Any chance you could just call the shop and ask them what they did?

    Since they got it to move a little, maybe get up in there with a flashlight and look to see where the metal is scrubbed/shiny showing signs of where the stuck assembly was actually sticking at. Soak it and the sliding surfaces down with WD40 or the like and rock it. Once it's broke loose, go back over those areas with a thin coating of grease.

    Any other ideas I have would probably be strictly in the shop's realm (you wouldn't want to be responsible for breaking stuff LOL). Finding a pry point or use a block for a long wrecking bar or rigging a hydraulic jack to push or pull the tandems against the frame. If those don't break it loose, maybe use them to put tension on the assembly then get under there (away from the wheels and tractor brakes set, maybe even chocked, of course) with a big hammer and try to break it loose with impact.

    Of course, after you are dead certain that there are no unseen safety devices, stop bars, pins with broken springs or loose linkage staying in, or anything of the like that could be jamming up the works before you really start yanking on stuff.
     
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  11. dude6710

    dude6710 Road Train Member

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    Go faster in reverse and grab the Johnny bar while moving?
     
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