that not necessarily true, just buy enough fuel in each state to cover the miles for each state or do as you say subtract the tax to find the actual cheapest fuel.
funny thing , at mercer they pay any ifta we might owe, so we are free to buy wheres its actually cheapest at pump, over all 4 quarters last year, I had a credit of 84 cents total for the year. dang near perfect without even trying. by the way the credit was applied to the purchase of coming years tag, along with 800 bucks in other bonuses
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I'd say a search on "Oregon IFTA" would give you better detail.
Also search "IFTA surcharge" and "weight distance tax". Both are mileage based. The surcharge is an additional amount some states (IN, VA, and KY for us, and I know there's one or two more) add to your IFTA filing on a separate line item.
Weight-distance is usually filed direct with the state revenue office on it's own return (not a line in IFTA). In our operating region, I only file that for KY. I think OR, NM, and NY? maybe another one? also have that.
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I think part of why I am confused is that my return was inaccurately "edited" by the State when I turned it in. I do get the concept of how it works out in the end as either paying now or paying later and also that ultimately (actual cost) cheaper fuel always will put me money ahead. I filed the stated return myself. Although it has cost me some time, since I am starting out I wanted to learn the numbers of things myself rather than paying others. After I understand how to most efficiently operate I may delegate some of the paperwork out. For now, I think I'm usually fairly capable at filings things and it did not really seem confusing to me at the time. What confused me is when the lady handed it back to me and said "this is wrong, you owe CA $$$". From what you guys are telling me I think she was wrong. It has happened to me 2 other times dealing with gov't entities in the last couple weeks. One of the others was for sales tax on the truck purchase. I had bought the truck out of state and researched the tax agreement between the states prior. I have an auto sales background so I was familiar with where the tax money went and the various rates. Guess what, they wanted me to pay again and more. On this subject I was knowledgeable enough to point the State rep to "that book right there on the side of your desk" and everything was corrected. On IFTA I was and still am a bit lacking in knowledge so I just assumed the State person was right.
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This is just a guess, but check how you accounted for OR. Maybe the problem lies there?
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Yes, I will look back over it. Whether this was my mistake in filing incorrectly or the State's "edit" I have still learned a lot through this experience. I'd like to say again, "thanks everyone for taking the time to help me". ...not necessarily for that particular return but for helping me to understand the concepts and effects of planning for the entire business.
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First a correction. IN, VA, and KY are the only three states that have a surcharge line.
All I could suggest with a difference on CA fuel tax would be a miscalculation or something. Don't go there, but it ought to be like the other one-line states. Gallons purchased offset taxable gallons calculated off your mileage in that state. Taxable gallons times the rate is the tax. Subtract gallons purchased times the rate.
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There's no reason to buy fuel in each state. You can if you want to, but it's a hassle and you probably aren't keeping your fuel costs as low as you can. -
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There is no reason to try to have your quarterly IFTA return come out to $0. The reason is because you will pay the same amount of IFTA no matter what. It doesn't matter if your quarterly return comes out with you having to send in a payment or ask for a return (or to have a surplus rolled over to the next quarter).
Netting $0 on an IFTA retrun isn't netting anything and none of my returns have come out to $0. I wouldn't even bother to try to do that.
I have a trucking business to make a profit. Once I make as much money as I can I have my revenue. Of course all my revenue isn't profit. I have to pay my expenses. After I pay my expenses I'm left with my profit. I'm sure we all understand and follow this part. Revenue - Expense = Profit (or loss)
Fuel is an expense. The biggest expense for most trucking operations except for driver wages (depending on price of fuel affects which is the biggest expense). Either way fuel is a huge cost of operating a truck. So for me and most other trucking businesses we want to buy fuel at the lowest cost possible. You already stated that you don't do that. You don't want to buy the lowest cost fuel. Ok...that's fine. But I want to be as profitable as I can so I buy fuel where it's the lowest cost along the lane(s) I run. For anyone who wants the lowest operating costs, which includes the lowest fuel cost, they would not buy fuel the way you do just to have their quarterly IFTA come out to $0 or any other number. They would, as I do, buy fuel at the lowest cost regardless of the tax paid at the pump.RedForeman and trees Thank this.
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