It's time for a strike!
Discussion in 'Truckers Strike Forum' started by Carolina Thunder, Mar 11, 2008.
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((You are just inviting mexican truckers here to do your job by striking.))
You may a good have a point here, but something has to be done..and complaining isn't it.
((Back to the company driver who is non union who will be fired for not getting the freight there because the company will say we are paying for the fuel not you.))
Company drivers may get fired..but they know that it is wrong to be working for the low pay they are receiving and this whole strike, protest (whatever you want to call it) should be geared towards putting our foot down about ALL the unfair issues we are facing not just fuel prices. Company drivers need to step up as well.
What if the strike does work? Maybe we will get fuel prices lowered for a little while..but we all know they will eventually go back up, and then what?
We will be right back here complaining again...increased freight rates, lower insurance etc. need to be addressed as well. -
Part of the reason why I am a company driver is I don't want the headaches of costs of buisness. Now you are saying I should throw out what I do have to help you accomplish you running your buisness? That is part of the reason why I am a company driver. If I don't want the headaches that come from it and make less for not being an O/O why would I risk what I have? I am by no means saying to heck with everyone that has their own truck, but that is part of owning a truck. Factoring in and absorbing the cost. Again go to my post and read what I wrote about companies vs. O/O's. I feel for you guys and gals and I don't know what the answer is, but it is my opinion that a walk out will cost you more in the long run. I even talked about the good paying factory jobs in anderson IN. Those plants moved out. There are other factories there now that pay a 1/4th of what GM did. All their strikes cost them what they had. The factories went to Mexico and it won't be long and mexico will be pulling your next load. -
I have no problem with what you have said, it makes sense and I can see your concern about your self and well being. But I have a question for you. My company will be shut down to support the issues at hand. People who work here will still be getting a pay check. If by chance your company comes in and takes some of my loads from my customers while I am shut down, I may become upset. But remember I am doing this to make a difference in my opinion and my choice. Now say we make a difference. Now say I have remembered your company coming in and taking some of my work away while I was off fishing or fighting for better conditions in the trucking field. What are you going to do if I can come back into this and take every contract your company now has away, because I have the money to operate and I can afford to sit for well more than a few years and still pay my people to be here and bolt on more stainless on our equipment. This shut down will not affect me. I am sick of the general O/O and company drivers and their companies who say this is a waste, that have succumb to our government and big business greed. With the rates as they are now, it is cheaper to have the help bolt on go fast goodies and not move the trucks with the fuel going up like it is and the rates going down. I will at least have some of the fanciest lawn ornaments in my area.
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Well; for one you are in a position where you have more control than I do. You own the company. You control when your trucks roll. You have the leverage to ride this out awhile. I do not. I am under forced dispatch. Again I understand where the problems are. I just don't know the answers. I do know that my whole life growing up my dad and most of my family worked at GM. I can't tell you how many times they went on strike. I can tell you all of them in Anderson IN lost their jobs. Good paying jobs. $20.00-$30.00 per hour. Some of the buildings are still there. GM is gone. The factories that took their place are paying 8 bucks an hour. My point is they were a major union job. They had structure and union pull. What happened in the long run? Trucking has no union rep. What will happen if you ride this out long enough? The people that you say are still getting a paycheck while you shut down ( I admire you for that. You are making the stand and not forcing them to lose income) What will happen to them if you close your doors?
There is so many different problems that did not just appear overnight. Again I don't have the answers, but I do know that a walk out, strike or whatever they call it will not stop the freight from moving. 3 million trucks out there and most are not O/O's or union outfits. They will find a way to move the freight. Even if it is mexican drivers that will run for 12 cents a mile. Put them in that position and when they find out that they can move the freight without paying your demands for more money. What will they do in the long run? Cough up more money to get you back or save even more money by having mexicans run all the freight?
I wish I could lower the fuel bills for you guys, but I don't see that happening with this walkout. All I see is more problems stemming from it. I will give you this much you seem very level headed with this. That will help your cause, but all the ones foaming at the mouth hollering, strike, violence, whatever it takes are going to be the ones that blacken the eye of anything you try to do. The news will show all the renegades that will even bring more negative reputation to the world of trucking. Times are tough and the guys and gals that are running their own trucks can barely keep their head above water. Look how many trucking companies go under all the time. I have a cousin who has been an O/O for over 30 years and I know he has talked about going back to a company spot. -
NYS has no clue about the strike , I asked around .. they looked at me strange , I explained what was written on here. They are not from NY They listen to the CB and haven't heard anything .. Any Trucker up around NYS get the word out , cause I guess a wife knows nothing ...
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Has anyone considered just why the unions would support a shutdown? I doubt it is in support of a so-called "brotherhood." Rather, it may further their position that union is the ONLY way to go. By trying to get their support, many may be cutting their own throats. They may claim that here are a bunch of disgruntled workers with no clear direction or a leader trying to make an impact in an industry that is deregulated and they can't even come together on a plan or list of "demands."
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Well lets see, It is my choice to fight back against crooked politics and this fuel price and crap wages offered.
Well lets see, I don't owe anything on credit, No house payment, No car payment, No truck payment, No dishwasher payment, No hot water heater payment.
Here is the deal, I didn't go out and just piss all my money out the window. I waited until I felt secure to make a major purchase and paid for it, not on credit or a loan. I didn't let my balls get the best of my brain and have a family because there was nothing better to do, or it was a cold winter with no work, and decide to play hide the weenie, and then cry I have no way to pay for my kids. I use to work three jobs at once. I drove redi mix. Then stayed a couple of hours working on the trucks, and then worked at a school cleaning it at night. I suffered a many years to get where I am now, and I don't want to hear your excuse about how tuff it is or how tuff it will get. You can either be behind us, or shut up, go to your happy job, and pay for what you owe because you created it. Yes I am fortunate for what I have, I am not going to rub that in a fellow drivers face because he ran into hard times and maybe will not make it through this. I am behind that fellow driver because he is getting crap wages probably caused from a crap company that you may work for who hauls cheap freight and drives the rates down with substandard wages and benefits if any. I have spoke my peace. I will leave it at that. Don't start in on me about you are stuck where you are, you made your bed, sleep in it. Don't begrudge the people out here who are trying to make it better.
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