log book question

paradox13 · Mar 18, 2014

I recently started a delivery job driving a straight truck which includes lots of local runs and some regional routes. I'm also required to keep a log book and stop at weigh stations.

Today, I did lots of local runs. My lines 3 & 4 look like teeth of a comb because the runs are short and it doesn't take much time to get loaded/unloaded therefore my status changes every 15 to 20 minutes. My remarks section is mess because there is simply not enough space to document everything. Any advice on how to organize my remarks section so that DOT won't hassle me about it?

Ann Eiffel · Mar 18, 2014

Are you inter or intra state?

x#1 · Mar 18, 2014

log them all as on duty IF they are in the same town. example: if you have 5 drops in rome,ga.,log every one of them as on duty,one continuous line.

pattyj · Mar 18, 2014

Use a fine point pen and write small.Is it all drop and hook?

CondoCruiser · Mar 18, 2014

Local driving is exempt from the HOS regulations. I'll post them in a minute I'm on my phone.

What you do the days you log local which means within 100 miles of the terminal, all time goes on line 4 on duty not driving, even driving.

The days you go outside the circle then you have to log it as it happens.

paradox13 · Mar 18, 2014

Thanks everybody for replying. Actually, it's my second day on the job and I'm on the only "shuttle" driver for our parts warehouse. It's a pretty big company with other locations, customers and vendors to pick up and delivery from. Local is within the county (one main city and three surrounding towns all within a 30 mile radius of each other). Some days I will have to travel 2 to 3 hours to other cities out of state for deliveries/pickups. I'm driving a flatbed straight truck so it takes me 15 to 20 minutes to strap/unstrap and for the forklift driver to remove/load pallets on flatbed.

paradox13 · Mar 18, 2014

Ann Eiffel said: ↑

Are you inter or intra state?
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local 2 days and 2 to 3 days out of state about 2 to 3 hours away

x#1 said: ↑

log them all as on duty IF they are in the same town. example: if you have 5 drops in rome,ga.,log every one of them as on duty,one continuous line.
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Thanks X!

pattyj said: ↑

Use a fine point pen and write small.Is it all drop and hook?
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flatbed straight truck. Forklift driver puts on pallets and I strap them down. Takes about 20 minutes tops.

CondoCruiser said: ↑

Local driving is exempt from the HOS regulations. I'll post them in a minute I'm on my phone.

What you do the days you log local which means within 100 miles of the terminal, all time goes on line 4 on duty not driving, even driving.

The days you go outside the circle then you have to log it as it happens.
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Thanks Condo!

CondoCruiser · Mar 18, 2014

Local

Hours of service of drivers

§ 395.1Scope of rules in this part.

(e) Short-haul operations(1) 100 air-mile radius driver. A driver is exempt from the requirements of § 395.8 if:
(i)The driver operates within a 100 air-mile radius of the normal work reporting location;(ii) The driver, except a driver-salesperson, returns to the work reporting location and is released from work within 12 consecutive hours;
(iii)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 10 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;
(B) A passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 8 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;

(iv)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver does not exceed the maximum driving time specified in §395.3(a)(3) following 10 consecutive hours off duty; or(B) A passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver does not exceed 10 hours maximum driving time following 8 consecutive hours off duty; and
(v) The motor carrier that employs the driver maintains and retains for a period of 6 months accurate and true time records showing:
(A) The time the driver reports for duty each day;
(B) The total number of hours the driver is on duty each day;
(C) The time the driver is released from duty each day; and
(D) The total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with §395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.
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Local

Question 12: What constitutes the 100-air-mile radius exemption?

Guidance: The term air mile is internationally defined as a nautical mile which is equivalent to 6,076 feet or 1,852 meters. Thus, the 100 air miles are equivalent to 115.08 statute miles or 185.2 kilometers.
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Question 16: May a driver use a record of duty status form as a time record to meet the requirement contained in the 100-air-mile radius exemption?
Guidance: Yes, provided the form contains the mandatory information.

Question 17: Is the mandatory information referred to in the previous guidance that required of a normal RODS undersection 395.8(d) that of the 100-air-mile radius exemption under section 395.1(e)(5)?

Guidance: The mandatory information referred to is the time records specified by §395.1(e)(5) which must show: (1) the time the driver reports for duty each day; (2) the total number of hours the driver is on duty each day; (3) the time the driver is released from duty each day; and (4) the total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with §395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.

Using the RODS to comply with §395.1(e)(5) is not prohibited as long as the RODS contains driver identification, the date, the time the driver began work, the time the driver ended work, and the total hours on duty.

Question 18: Must the drivers name and each date worked appear on the time record prepared to comply with §395.1(e), 100-air-mile radius driver?

Guidance: Yes. The drivers name or other identification and date worked must be shown on the time record.
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Local

Question 19: Regulatory guidance issued by the Office of Motor Carriers states that a drivers record-of-duty-status (RODS) may be used as the 100 air-mile radius time record provided the form contains the mandatory information. Is this mandatory information that required of a normal RODS under section 395.8(d) or that of the 100 air-mile radius exemption under section 395.1(e)(5)?

Guidance: The mandatory information referred to is the time records specified by §395.1(e)(5) which must show: (1) the time the driver reports for duty each day; (2) the total number of hours the driver is on duty each day; (3) the time the driver is released from duty each day; and (4) the total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with §395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.
Using the RODS to comply with §395.1(e)(5) is not prohibited as long as the RODS contains driver identification, the date, the time the driver began work, the time the driver ended work, and the total hours on duty.
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Both

Question 20: When a driver fails to meet the provisions of the 100 air-mile radius exemption (section 395.1(e)), is the driver required to have copies of his/her records of duty status for the previous seven days? Must the driver prepare daily records of duty status for the next seven days?

Guidance: The driver must only have in his/her possession a record of duty status for the day he/she does not qualify for the exemption. The record of duty status must cover the entire day, even if the driver has to record retroactively changes in status that occurred between the time that the driver reported for duty and the time in which he/she no longer qualified for the 100 air-mile radius exemption. This is the only way to ensure that a driver does not claim the right to drive 10 hours after leaving his/her exempt status, in addition to the hours already driven under the 100 air-mile exemption.
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Regional

§395.8 Driver's record of duty status.

Question 1: How should a change of duty status for a short period of time be shown on the drivers record of duty status?

Guidance: Short periods of time (less than 15 minutes) may be identified by drawing a line from the appropriate on-duty (not driving) or driving line to the remarks section and entering the amount of time, such as 6 minutes, and the geographic location of the duty status change.
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Regional

Question 6: How should multiple short stops in a town or city be recorded on a record of duty status?

Guidance: All stops made in any one city, town, village or municipality may be computed as one. In such cases the sum of all stops should be shown on a continuous line as on-duty (not driving).The aggregate driving time between such stops should be entered on the record of duty status immediately following the on-duty (not driving) entry. The name of the city, town, village, or municipality, followed by the State abbreviation where all the stops took place, must appear in the remarks section of the record of duty status.
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Regional

Question 22: If a driver logs his/her duty status as driving but makes multiple short stops (each less than 15 minutes) for on-duty or off-duty activities, marks a vertical line on the grid for each stop, and records the elapsed time for each in the remarks section of the grid, would the aggregate time spent on those non-driving activities be counted against the 10-hour driving limit?

Guidance: No. On-duty not driving time or off-duty time is not counted against the 10-hour driving limit.
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Question 21: When a driver fails to meet the provisions of the 100 air-mile radius exemption (section 395.1(e)), is the driver required to have copies of his/her records of duty status for the previous seven days? Must the driver prepare daily records of duty status for the next seven days?

Guidance: The driver must only have in his/her possession a record of duty status for the day he/she does not qualify for the exemption. A driver must begin to prepare the record of duty status for the day immediately after he/she becomes aware that the terms of the exemption cannot be met The record of duty status must cover the entire day, even if the driver has to record retroactively changes in status that occurred between the time that the driver reported for duty and the time in which he/she no longer qualified for the 100 air-mile radius exemption. This is the only way to ensure that a driver does not claim the right to drive 10 hours after leaving his/her exempt status, in addition to the hours already driven under the 100 air-mile exemption.

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paradox13 · Mar 18, 2014

Thank you very much CondoCruiser. I'm going to print this and keep with me along with my green little book in case there is any issue with DOT.

truckon · Mar 18, 2014

Ann Eiffel said: ↑

Are you inter or intra state?
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