No place to park and out of hours

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  1. Lowa3468

    Lowa3468 Heavy Load Member

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    Again, i drive til my 10th hour then find a spot to park, depending on time of night I add 1/2 hour to that. But now I will be bumping that up to the 2 2-1/2 hr mark. If before 8pm I use 10 hr after 8pm 1 1/2 after 10pm 2-2 1/2 does that make sense, it should work for me anyways
     
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  3. gpsman

    gpsman Road Train Member

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    Hours of service of drivers

    § 395.1
    (b) Driving conditions -(1) Adverse driving conditions. Except as provided in paragraph (h)(2) of this section, a driver who encounters adverse driving conditions, as defined in §395.2*, and cannot, because of those conditions, safely complete the run within the maximum driving time permitted by §§395.3(a) or 395.5(a) may drive and be permitted or required to drive a commercial motor vehicle for not more than 2 additional hours beyond the maximum time allowed under §§395.3(a) or 395.5(a) to complete that run or to reach a place offering safety for the occupants of the commercial motor vehicle and security for the commercial motor vehicle and its cargo.
    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.1

    *§ 395.2
    As used in this part, the following words and terms are construed to mean: Adverse driving conditions means snow, sleet, fog, other adverse weather conditions, a highway covered with snow or ice, or unusual road and traffic conditions, none of which were apparent on the basis of information known to the person dispatching the run at the time it was begun. (emphasis, mine)
    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.2

    Can't be a "driver" if you don't know the rules.
     
  4. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    I smell a #### measuring contest in this thread. It better stop. KTHNXBYE.
     
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  5. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    That is not the magical rules that they keep saying.

    ADVERSE does not add hours to get to safe haven. Read their posts.

    I am well aware of the rules.
     
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  6. wyldhorses

    wyldhorses Medium Load Member

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    Ok Mr macho man supertrucker.
     
  7. lfod14

    lfod14 Road Train Member

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    I can do some copy and pasting later when I get home
     
  8. gpsman

    gpsman Road Train Member

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    A difference in terms that is irrelevant.

    Obviously not or we wouldn't be here.
     
  9. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    Roadmedic is picking a bone that the term "safe haven" was used to describe getting to a safe place to park with another 2 hours drive time if you encounter adverse conditions. The term "safe haven" is specific to hazmat loads.

    Regarding the issue of whether or not e-logs can roll over hours, yes they can. I'm not aware of any TTR members using e-logs that have claimed otherwise or claimed they MUST take a reset when they run out of 70 (unless they were a new driver unfamiliar with how to run continuously). When I drove solo on e-logs I typically ran 2-5 weeks straight, only reseting when I took home time or if there was a delay getting another dispatch. Running about 8.75 hours a day on average keeps you running continuously. Sometimes more and sometimes less.
     
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  10. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    There is no safe haven for extended hours of service for parking unless you have encountered adverse conditions not known at time of dispatch.

    So out of time you do not have a safe haven.

    This is where I am asking that they support their claim with a link that shows when there is no longer parking available or hours where they are claiming it is legal.
     
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  11. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    not everyone can or wants to shut down in the middle of the day

    this work is not a 9-5 where you punch a clock

    or maybe its coming to that
     
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