so, you think your safe with the elog and hos.

5th amendment. Ones right to not self incriminate.

 

Not really sure it applies. You have to report whether on paper or the upcoming Elogs. Go ahead and take the 5th at the next inspection and let us know how well it works. This amendment applies to criminal activity, not to regulatory compliance. Go ask an attorney.

 

you guys are going to cause a shortage of tin foil hats.

what do you guys do to trigger the dot raking you over the coals? in 34 years now I have never been questioned about missing pages in a logbook, never questioned about my copies of my logs, nor harassed.

in fact last Friday evening on I-440 I had 2 Arkansas state troopers and a Arkansas dot helping with a problem on my load in the rain no less, they at one point were pulling bungee cords. nice guys actually, it was like 3 old boys in a pickup stopped to help

a lot depends on your attitude , demeanor , believe it or not

 

LOL! Caused me to think about, in the movie "Signs", where they were siting on the couch all wearing tin foil hats so the aliens couldn't read their thoughts!

 

Nothing happens if you log out of the system when you park your truck when at the yard or when truck goes in for service.When you log back in the system asks if you want credit for the hours logged out and you just push the "no" button.

 

Not true with the proposal which is what they are concerned about.

 

I do paper logs, well sort of. I use eclipse logs on my laptop and print them off each day, been checked several times with no problems. mine are always up to date, they can target away.

and youre right some people just draw more flies than others for whatever reason.

 

I would have thanked you a million times if I could. I too have never had problems with my logs (and I don't even have a ruler). My concern with all this new computer crap coming doen the line is this. New drivers drive by computer, it tells them when to wake up, when to start driving, when to stop driving and when to go to bed. Heck it even beeps at them when thry are getting to close to another vehicle or swerving from their lane. The only reason a driver is in the seat is so it won't freak out the 4 wheelers driving by. Nowadays the coops are getting the same generation and if you don't match their computer they are confused so they write yoy a ticket.

I can't tell you how many times my logs may not be to the letter of the law but they were truthful. They would ask why it is like this and I would explain what went on that day and why I logged it as so. I may have been wrong in the way I logged it but the officer at the coop or on the side of the road used reason and could understand why it was the way it was. They would tell me how to do it right and I was on my way. Logic and reason used to be the norm now the world doesn't want to think for itself. Let the robots run things for us. No thanks I still got a functional brain.

 

That is the biggest bunch of malarkey that's being pushed around about computerized logs/elogs/ELDs. The only thing they do is enforce accurate logging of the drive line. The rest is up to the driver. In my experience you have to have a much better knowledge of the HOS regs in order to plan your trip adequately using elogs. There's no turning off the clocks once you hit the road... so if you don't have your plan in place, you're screwed. You get one chance at it, no ripping out pages and playing around with a contrived story after the fact.