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Discussion in 'Swift' started by deunta18, May 6, 2014.

  1. WitchingHour

    WitchingHour Road Train Member

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    No, more because the laws are what they are - for the purposes of this topic, arguing over whether they're justifiable or not is irrelevant - and this is an occupation with zero tolerance on it. Piss hot, you're done. And, quite frankly, if someone isn't responsible enough to make that sacrifice - whether it's weed, refraining from drinking right before they're going to drive, jacking off while driving, whatever - then no, they really don't have any place here.
     
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  3. EdinKansas

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    Actually, for the purposes of this topic, the answer is: No. Moosetek answered it in the second post of this thread. Strangely enough, people continued to respond to the thread and the conversation diverged into other issues. Weird right?

    In some states recreational smoking is legal. In still more states, medical use is legal. So if I'm going through Colorado and do a 34 why should I get fired if a four wheeler crashes into me four weeks later? If they come up with a test that can detect alcohol consumption for the past 60 days, are you willing to give up drinking? How does it make sense beyond "Just do what your told" or "Because I said so"?

    If someone is DUI then it is what it is, but that is a far cry from what we do in private that has no bearing on how a person drives.
     
  4. MsJamie

    MsJamie Road Train Member

    Because you voluntarily signed up for a job, knowing that it does not permit any use of certain drugs.

    I recently spent a miserable two weeks with a nagging back pain that could have been cleared up with a single Vicodin twice a day. Vicodin is legal, the prescription is in my name, and the dosage is within the prescribed limits. Yet the pills are sitting at home, untouched, because I didn't want to risk losing my job.
     
  5. EdinKansas

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    Are you purposely missing the point, just trying to be confrontational, or both?
     
  6. MsJamie

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    I'm simply answering the question. You asked, I answered.

    If you agree to a job, and one of the conditions of that job is that you aren't allowed to eat red meat on Friday before quitting time, you can get fired for having a hamburger for lunch on Friday. There's nothing illegal about having a burger for Friday lunch, but you agreed to those terms. Why they have such a rule is irrelevant; it's there, and your employment is "at will".
     
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  7. EdinKansas

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    No you aren't. The only question you are answering is: Is it against company policy to smoke weed? I know the answer. You know the answer. Everyone knows the answer. That isn't the conversation I am trying to have, but no worries. It is my fault for thinking there was a conversation to be had.
     
  8. WitchingHour

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    Legal marijuana is a bit of a catch-22... the states basically say they won't pursue prosecution... it still remains illegal under federal law, which is what we as CMV operators are regulated by.
    We can argue right and wrong until we're both blue in the face, but it remains irrelevant to the topic at hand. I voted for Amendment 64, but, being a CDL driver, as well as a firearm owner and FFL holder, I can't partake. That's the skinny of it. Why should you be liable four weeks later? I'm of the opinion you shouldn't be. But, you will be, regardless of what either of us thinks.
    No amount of preaching you do on this forum will change any of that.
     
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  9. MysticHZ

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    Took you awhile, but you appear to have finally caught on.
     
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  10. fr8monkey

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    Maybe It's becoz of all that weed? :biggrin_25525:
     
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  11. EdinKansas

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    I wish.:biggrin_25518:
     
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