Warnings on your CSA score

never heard of warnings on csa. it's either a violation and fix it. (points) or not. (no points)

you don't need to be put OOS to get a violation. if you got points. you got a violation. anything that requires attention is a violation and points.

no such things as warnings. either your clean or something needed attention. and you got points.

 

Snowy you are so wrong....

A warning citation can and are written in the comment section of an inspection form...
sometimes it is the initial reason the officer stopped you.

I got one in Connecticut... speeding less than 5 mph over limit... no fine, no court date, no bond... a warning ticket...
Then the Sargent used me to teach his rookie how to do an inspection.. Which I passed with ZERO violations.

Yet that warning ticket, did give me points for my PSP, and the company points.

So yes a driver can get a warning ticket on an inspection form....

Have had it happen.

 

if you passed with ZERO violations. then you wouldn't have gotten points for speeding. cuz that's a violation.

he probably made the comment becuase you weren't issued a citation. but a warning citation.

mine was a flat out violation AND a citation.

 

If you receive an inspection and have no violations, you are okay. However, if the officer notes that the reason for stopping for the inspection was speed related, you receive points for the warning.

When a warning happens, you have almost no way of contesting it.


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[h=2]Violations & Violation Scoring[/h]Q: Will all violations listed on a roadside inspection report count, even minor violations?
A: All violations of the safety regulations appearing in the severity weighting tables and noted on a roadside inspection report during a relevant inspection will be used in the CSA Safety Measurement System. However, due to the severity weighting system serious violations will have a greater impact on a carrier's score than minor violations.
Q: Will a violation be counted even if the driver was not placed out of service or given a warning or citation?
A: Yes. All violations appearing in the severity weighting tables listed on roadside inspection reports during a relevant inspection will be used in the CSA Safety Measurement System, regardless of what action followed the discovery of the violation (actions such as being placed out of service, and/or being warned or cited are actions that follow the discovery of a violation).
Q: Is there a list of the violation severity weighting available?
A: Yes, the FMCSA has published it in its Safety Measurement System (SMS) Methodology (PDF, 718 KB).
Q: Are the exact formulas used to score each BASIC publically available?
A: Yes. The formulas are available in its Safety Measurement System (SMS) Methodology (PDF, 718 KB).
Q: Many times an officer may not give a driver an inspection report following a driver inspection; will CSA be able to capture these inspections and use them in the system?
A: No. If the officer did not complete a roadside inspection report, the inspection will not show up in CSA. Instruct drivers that if the officer did do a complete driver inspection, the driver should ask for an inspection report. However, please be aware that there are several reasons the officer my not have completed a roadside inspection report. Examples include the following:

• The officer did a simple "traffic stop," not a roadside inspection.
• The officer was not a MCSAP/CVSA officer. Only officers that have been properly trained can conduct roadside inspections and submit reports.
• The officer did not do a complete inspection (simply checking a driver's license or log does not count as an inspection; the inspection must meet the North American Standards established by CVSA to be recorded as a roadside inspection).

Q: What is the appeals process if you do not agree with a violation recorded on a roadside inspection report?
A: There are two main appeals processes if you feel that you have received a violation you should not have. The first is to contact the State Motor Carrier Safety Office in the state the inspection took place in, and the second is the DataQs system operated by the FMCSA. In both cases, you will need to be able to support your argument (you cannot simply state that you feel the violation was incorrect; you will need to provide regulatory or factual proof that the violation was incorrect).

 

YOUR company does not triple or double the points, that is done by the CSA system.

 

This is what I think of when I hear about tripling and companies tripling

 

i'd still call that a violation more then a warning. he may not have gotten a ticket. and paid a fine. but he still had a violation. and got points instead.

i'd think a warning would be just that. a warning. NO inspection. but cops these days. want to make sure their mark is made on a driver. if he's not going to issue an actual citation. then he's going to make it a csa violation. tickets can be easily fought in court. csa can't.

i got pulled over in nevada. cop said i was doing 70 in a 65. i told him "NO, GPS SAID 66 BY THE TIME I HIT THAT 65 SIGN"
he knew i was going to contest it. so instead of a citation. he gave me a csa. where i have no chance of contesting it.

cops want the revenue, and if they can't get it. csa is their backup plan. one way or another. he's going to ding you.

warning tickets on csa. i'd rather you give me a citation, so i can fight it. and leave my csa alone.

 

with all the accidents and regulations going on in the truck industry. it's surprising that everyone still thinks that less then 5 mph over the speed limit won't get you pulled over.

with the csa and how cops are using it these days. it's more important then ever for all of us to obey ALL traffic laws. and NOT be doing so much as 1 mph over.

used to be you got pulled over. for no reason. he was bored and lookng for something to do and hopefully get you in the wrong for something.

these days. you get pulled over. your going to get something. and we need to NOT give them something to pull us over for.

not only do you have a MVR to protect. but CSA also.

we're no longer getting just traffic citations and warnings. becuase we're all fighting them. we're now getting csa as a bonus. to which we can't fight.