I see why trucking is going the way it is...

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BAYOU, May 23, 2014.

  1. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    this conversation would have been the same if this forum would have been alive in 1979, I have heard the same conversation over and over since then.

    this industry at bare bones level hasn't changed very much at its core, its the same complaints now as back then, the circumstances have changed, but the actual heart of it hasn't. log book rules have been in place since the 30's. in fact, to me in days gone by scale inspections and such were far more prevalent than today, heck half of em are closed these days.

    you heard the exact same thing" if guys wouldn't haul the cheap loads the rates would go up", " we wont stick together" , "the new guys don't have a clue", its all the same.

    everyone has at some point pulled their first load, they either learn to survive or they are quickly out of the industry.

    and as the one poster said its all a matter of perspective, ones guy definition of success is entirely different than anothers. you get a guy who comes from a family where they have always worked for minimum wage and you can drive and bring home 600 a week, it seems like a goldmine.

    I wonder sometimes exactly how much money is enough every week? it varies from individual to individual, there is no rule that happiness is brought on by 1500 bucks a week.

    I guess I never have worried about what the other guy is getting or what the broker is getting, I only worry about what I am getting.

    the guy hauling the cheap load isn't hauling my freight, and cheap is also relative, it depends upon what ones cost of operation is.

    it also depends greatly when you hear a rate quoted by someone if they are leased on or doing their own authority.

    I wonder sometimes , exactly how much is this magical number one should make every week?

    it would seem that sometimes everyone here grew up in a family with bring home pay of 3,000 bucks a week.

    again I ask, what is the amount of money on avg every week that would achieve satisfaction??
     
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  3. tangerineGT

    tangerineGT Road Train Member

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    Yea , about 10 minutes away .
    I live up on Winterstown Rd.

    Do they let you park there with a trailer . I have been trying to find somewhere close to park if I can get home while under a load . I was thinking about asking Rivers service.


    Sorry for thread jacking. Lol
     
  4. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

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    My magic number is $1,000 a day to the truck some days half that goes for fuel somedays not some weeks I do $5,500 and only use one tank of fuel than other weeks I spend $2,400 and make $8,500 with that said as long as I make $1,000 a day to the truck everyday I work I'm happy.

    This past week I did Beaumont to Gonzales,la load was $1,100 ended up spending the night loaded for Houston Tuesday load paid $950 dropped same day and headed to the house Wednesday day I was at my shipper first thing loaded for Pedal,MS 400 miles for $1,850 live load and unload that took five hours to load four to offload that's why the price was that reloaded Thursday 55miles away with a lumber load going to silsbee, tx 400 miles paid $1,200 no tarp strap and go, dropped it first thing Friday did a local $400 move and was at the house by 2:pM $5,500 week and worked five days sleep in the truck two nights and used two tanks of fuel $1,200 and drove 1,597miles that's what I call a good week!!
     
  5. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    How can there be a "fixed cost" for O/O's? There isn't a "fixed cost" for plumbers or lap dances, a plumber in New York City gets $100 an hour and probably a third of that in rural Alabama. I can't imagine trying to survive on $80K per year in Orange County CA (where Im from). But $80K is a fortune for a guy living in a mobile home on his grandpas land in Kentucky. I lived payday to payday in CA but I live pretty well in AZ on the same money.
    Maybe thats why most truck drivers are from rural areas.
     
  6. Mr Dave

    Mr Dave Light Load Member

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    If you don't know your numbers, you are doomed to failure or bankruptcy!!!!
     
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  7. snowwy

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    the guy won't take a load less then $2.20.

    after LS's cut. that leaves the truck $1.43. not much more then the other guy hauling for $1.30. if it were straight rate.

    he's probably up around $1.65 give or take. after the fsc is factored in.
     
  8. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

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    wrong everyone has fixed cost that you pay every month that never changes, for an example my insurance $1,043/month I don't pay that 30days latter I become a un-approved motor carrier and my authority is revoked, also load boards the cost don't change and without them would cut my revenue so it's a essential to my operation, even the place I park my truck I pay a fixed cost rather it's there one day or 31 days it's the same and I could continue. All these things are necessary for me to stay in business and cost don't change so they become fixed cost, maintenance tires fuel etc. are variable cost they change month to month week to week.
     
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  9. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

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    No this BCO was not stupid he was saying after his cut at one point he said he didn't book loads under $3/mi and a few called him stupid than he elaborated on that.
     
  10. rockyroad74

    rockyroad74 Heavy Load Member

    I run about the same number of miles every year, so I like to convert my fixed costs to a per mile number. The more miles I run, the lower the "per mile" cost of that fixed item.

    No system is perfect. The main thing is that owners have a system, they understand the system, and it works in reality.
     
  11. Florida Playboy

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    Are you a "BCO" with Landstar?
     
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