Warnings on your CSA score

joe

i have NO POINTS

that doesnt change the fact the system is rigged

nor do i drink, but the DUI laws are tyrannical

 

maybe in canada, but not in the USA... the Federal Motor Carriers Safety Administration does NOT have the authority to rate individual citizens...

 

again, the drivers methodology you keep referring to is ONLY USED to calculate the score of the carrier.

 

Maybe you just don't like the word points, since there are demerit points associated with your Canadian license.

And what do you call a violation for speeding that is written on an inspection form, but you never posted bond, went to court, or had the violation adjudicated in a court of law?
they are called warning tickets.

does NOT matter what the FMSCA says, in the real world they are called a warning ticket...

just as any scale that is assigned a number, that number is called a POINT.

 

ABSOLUTELY FALSE!

They're two entirely different systems, but have similarities.

edit:

The DSMS and CSMS are two different branches of the SMS. Each has 7 different BASICs and each has different ways to calculate things. For example the carrier ones put them into groups depending on how large the carrier is when doing percentile rankings.

 

It says so right in the methodology. See the quote in post #85 straight from the PDF.

 

Do a search for "points" on the FMCSA website. You won't find anything to do with CSA.

CSA has violations. There are no warnings. It's actually worse than having a court date because you cannot challenge it before a judge. I'm not an American, but does that not violate your constitution?

That's the problem. The troopers call it a warning. It's not. It's a violation and goes on your record for 3 years. To me that's more than a warning. Them calling it a warning is absolutely insulting. People losing their jobs or not being hired over "warnings"? Come on.

 

Actually the worst part of this convuluted mess is when truck drivers start using the word "points" (what does that even mean, severity weight? Severity weight X time weight? Score? I've heard it all lately) adding another metric to a program that already has too many.

 

Q.
Does CSA assign safety ratings to individual CMV drivers?
k.A.
No. Under CSA, individual CMV drivers are not assigned
safety ratings or Safety Fitness Determinations (SFDs)

https://csa.fmcsa.dot.gov/Documents/Driver_Factsheet.pdf

Again you do not understand that the entire report you continue to refer to, is about one thing

how the FMCSA determines the final score for the carrier...

The FMSCA does NOT have the authority to score or rank individual drivers....

The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration wants authority to release driver safety data, in effect reversing its earlier stance that drivers would not be publicly ranked under the Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA) program.
The agency is seeking increased regulatory authority over drivers via the next highway reauthorization bill, according to a February Government Accountability Office report to Congress on CSA progress.

And congress has refused every year... law trumps methodology reports....

 

No they are not. Don't drink and drive. I swear you guys want a free for all. You talk about people "doing what feels right" and going against the archaic rules of your religious beliefs. So let me turn that on you for a second. You drink, and drive, you run the risk of killing people or yourself. Pretty sure your beliefs have a commandment about killing.....

And if you're in a cmv that's unsafe and you've been driving the last 20 hours, once again you are risking other people's lives. The effects of fatigue are no different than being drunk. Reaction time is gone. Rational decision making is out the window. And don't get me started on people who run with bad brakes and NO LIGHTS. You've seen this I'm sure. If you hate having to log and having someone set the guidelines of how safe your vehicle should be, please, find something else.