So I was put OOS today...

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by kona911, Jun 5, 2014.

  1. MJ1657

    MJ1657 Road Train Member

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    So is only jumping in on threads where you can start an argument or pat yourself on the back.
     
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  3. allan5oh

    allan5oh Road Train Member

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    I'm a destroyer of bad information and stupidity.

    Don't want me in a thread? It's not hard to figure it out....
     
  4. allan5oh

    allan5oh Road Train Member

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    So if you knew this, why didn't you bring up that the weights were wrong? Instead of putting up bad arguments to my correct points?
     
  5. MJ1657

    MJ1657 Road Train Member

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    You and Richter. Always there to try and prove how smart you are and how dumb everyone else is. Kind of reminds me of a certain radio....well wait I wont go there.
     
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  6. skateboardman

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    I did post that, that either the weights were wrong or they told him the wrong units to tie down, I stated several times that something was out of kilter because the shipper has always shipped those units that way.

    I gave the same argument that the shipper knew what they were doing, turns out they did. that fact was simply ignored.
     
  7. skateboardman

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    no actually the driver had it right, there isn't much you can do when the cop writes you up, except what the guy is doing now.
     
  8. allan5oh

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    I'm not an overly smart person and have never held myself in that regard. However what I do is a lot of research, not the channel 19 kind either. There is a lot of bad information in the trucking industry, and I have no issue combating that. When I do this, it is with the full weight of research behind me not just opinion.

    I always ask questions, some might even be "dumb" questions. There's a lot I know about the industry, but there's a lot *MORE* I don't. If I knew everything, I'd be retired by now. If you notice my posts, I actually ask a lot of questions. So no I'm not trying to prove how smart I am or anything like that. But there are a few narrow topics where I am very informed.

    If you feel otherwise, well I don't know what to say. If you want to make me feel dumb, just ask away about drug testing. Couldn't tell ya. Dealing with customers/brokers? Clued out. Running a MC? How do I do that? Oversize loads? God I hate those, they pay garbage for the hassle IMO. Doing LTL around NYC? Shoot me now, have mercy. CARB rules? See previous. Stupid little laws that certain states have? I'm a sucker. Running reefer? Thems those noisy things right? Running aggregate or sea cans? No idea. Heavy haul? No thanks, need more experience.

    If you want to talk driveline specs (including direct drives) go ask the president of our company(200 trucks) who came to me asking about specs, ask him if I know my stuff.
    If you want to talk trailer specs, I'm getting into that pretty deep now.
    If you want to talk about CSA, ask our safety director. He came to me asking about a third party information supplier. I said they were garbage. They were dropped.
    If you want to talk about securement regs, well this thread is a great example. I go straight off the FMCSRs, not the Keller book.
    If you want to talk about cross border trucking, I've crossed it at least 600 times clearing thousands of shipments. Used to cross it once a night. I might know something.
    If you want to talk about how IFTA fuel tax works - and why you need to buy at base price only(pump price minus fuel tax) - I'm the man to talk to. I've even written articles in our company newsletter on the subject. Since you seem to want to bring up a certain radio personality, there was a time where he didn't understand fuel tax. He knew that you had to buy using the base price but didn't know why. So he talked to someone about it and a lightbulb went off. That someone?
     
  9. allan5oh

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    You posted that well after talking about some sort of exemption which wasn't applicable in this case. But you did post it. Ah well it's not a big deal, the driver was in fact legal and the shipper is doing things correctly. Hopefully the violation disappears. Also I hope the OP learned how to calculate aggregate properly. I'm a wizard at math, and even I think it's a joke.

    Here's the ultimate funny: We were both right.
     
  10. ColoradoGreen

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    So, I keep seeing people say that the shippers requirements don't meet the aggregate amount argument here... am I the only one sitting her thinking that the simplest solution is to bump up to 3/8 grade 70 chains? Even doing OTR flatbed, I didn't carry anything less than 3/8 chain and 3/8-1/2 binders (5 ratchets, 5 throwovers). Run up to the heavier chain and you're covered, 6600lb WLL, 3300lb for a direct tiedown, that's 6600lb for the front stack, you're past the 1/2-way point.

    The only thing I ever used lightweight 5/16 chain for was on a derailment job. Would throw two over coal hoppers with caved sides to keep the wind from trying to open them up.

    Other than that, 3/8 or bigger in my book.

    Edit:

    I noticed SHC suggested this, too.

    Bigger chains are better...
     
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  11. skateboardman

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    see , once again somewhat bad info. bigger chains are no more useful than the point they are tied to, if the tiedown points on the trailer aren't rated for 6,600 pounds , bigger chain is useless.

    its the weakest point, if your spools are rated for 5,500 pounds a 6,600 pound wll chain is useless, just more weight to drag around.
     
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