Halliburton Frac/Acid/Cementing

Elmendorf should be 15 or 16 w cdl

 

Hi Seattle206. I've been reading through a few of your posts and, correct me if I'm wrong but, it sounds like you work for Halliburton and make pretty good money. There's a lot of conflicting comments on Halliburton that say their pay is low and they are not a good company to work for. What's your opinion? You seem to be very knowledgeable on most oilfield trucking areas.

Also....my husband recently began frac sand hauling and the company he hauls for is new, less than 2 years old, has no benefits, and pays 25% of the load. Is that the norm for frac hauling? Right now he drives for someone else, but looks to become an o/o in the next 6 months. Is this a good idea? He's had his CDL for many years and a perfect record, but is new to the frac business, so I'm doing the research for him. We really want to move our family to Texas within the next, as the economy seems to be great shape out there.

Thanks!

 

The simple way to look at things are the following.

Lets say you work in the Panhandle of Texas or The New Super Yard opening in Reno OK

Starting pay is $14.00 an Hour right?

Your title is a 54Hr Employee in this district and that means your guaranteed 40 and Scheduled for 54hrs a week.

Work dictates everything in this business and your individual willingness to work amplifies it.

Case in point ( I have a Great Work ethic and great personality.) Where someone is working 60-80 hrs a week I'm able to get in 112-154 a week... Personality and work ethic goes a long way. Work Ethic being key....

So lets do the Math for everyone to see. Real case and point using upper end numbers.

14 * 80hrs = $1120 overtime 80 * 7 = $560 for a total of $1680 a week

$1680 * 4 weeks in a month = $6720 a month Multiply by 12 for the year is $80,640

14 * 154hrs = $2156 overtime 154 * 7 = $1078 for a total of $3234 a week

$3234 * 4 weeks in a month = $12936 a month multiply by 12 for a year is $155,232


That's the money that is on the Table to be made...




The Blue represents a district/ yard with 55-65 wells they are servicing and Red represents a yard with 75+ wells they are servicing in this scenario.

Now the money on the table is the max amount of Hours available feasible under these conditions. Since I've worked in both scenarios now there are differences in operations between a yard that is busy, busy, busy and a yard that is just regularly busy. Tip! these are important questions to ask in the interview process.
Of course this changes; but a team of people servicing 75+ wells regularly will maintain that level of performance on avg. Where as a rig doing 65 will avg the same as well for a time.


Now back to the money question you had; there are people making 50K and people on the same yard same position making 70K. What is the difference? Work Ethic! The person calling after there done with a Job and saying you got any more work? Is the person who will make 70K in the cement department. Its just a fact; that person will roll over to the next job and become reliable to the dispatcher or Loader. This is how things really work here.

I can't tell you how sometimes I would call, and she would say I got no work. I would go okay im headed in to the yard and going on home.

Just to get there check out, and go home and drive 1hr and a half away to the house and then the phone rings in 1hr. Its the Loader on the phone and says hey I need you come in... Now remind you that I was given number 8th on the call out list; and they are calling you again. I use to think that maybe she was just screwing with me. Though I later realized that since I was one of the few who would always help them out in a bind. That I became this persons go to guy. =D That's the reputation you want to have to get your money.

The people that always Hour out on them; and BALL, MOAN, and SQUALL about I want to go home. They will have there log books checked; and everything else that goes with the title lazy, slacker ect. The one commitment you have to make is that I will answer the phone and get up and go. I realized that's what I had to commit too through my own research.

Since I know that's what it takes, and its not a easy commitment by no means. You stick to that commitment and things will work out fine for you either way. Other positive attributes help along the way; but the first is the sure way too keep your job and avg middle to high on the earner scale for that yard.



One last thing speaking on the numbers.

Lets say the Cementer is making $100K that's a 65 well servicing yard/district...

Then the Avg is 50K that's the middle 0-100k

Now if your a go getter.... That is 30% more on avg of 50K Your going to make 65K that year


If your lucky to land in a position where they want you on 24/7 for your duty rotation and willing to pay for it then your in a special unit. You will know this because they put up barriers like you have to speak to someone to okay you taking a break for like 8 or 10 hrs lol.... Then making $13 or $14 an hour to START! is nothing at all. Because your going to work 112-154hrs a week your working.

If your making $26.00 and hour and working 80hrs a week and going home is important to you every night then your making 80K a year....

If your making $14.00 an hour and your working 112 hrs a week on avg the weeks your working 2 on and 1 off its $97K a year 7.2K of that is perdeim $32 a day.


Its just a matter of doing the mathematics on the money and doing the research for the commitment of the job. If you got to be home everyday; then Halliburton Cement isn't for you at all...


Later... * You get to sleep and get paid at Halliburton...

 

So the go-getter described in red above...gets two hours of sleep per day? And that's only if he has a bunk right next to the time clock!

 

lets give them hours a couple years and see how burned out you are going to be! no one can work 112-154hrs a week day in and day out without major burn out!

 

A couple of years before burnout? How about 1 week? I'm sorry. I've never worked a day in this industry, and I know there are people out there who have greatly different abilities than I, but if the person described above is really working those hours, I believe he and his employer are putting people in danger.

 

You may want to stick to the office...

 

Seattle is telling you guys how to make real money in the oilfield and you passing all over it. What he's saying is not unreasonable at all. Sometimes he gets to sleep all day while on the clock because the cement job was scheduled for a certain time and the rig had problems. If you wanna make real money in this industry you have to be dependable. You don't have to work like a maniac all the time or be some kind of bad ###. You have to answer the phone and say yes, keep the stupid mistakes to a minimum and be the guy your supervisor knows he can count on.

 

If he said such things it must have been in a different thread because I don't see those details in this one. As far as working like a maniac, I say 154 hours in a week describes a maniac. 112? Probably doable.

 

His math is so terrible it makes me think he is a halliburton requiter. 154 hours a week at 14 an hour base is 153K a year (52 weeks in a year, not 48 ), 80 hours a week at 26 is 135k. Option 1 you work about 8000 hours a year, option 2 you work about 4200. Thats like working 73 hours a week for 20k a year. But as some would say; work harder, not smarter.