Bad news for manual lovers

Umm you start the truck. It always starts in neutral.

 

KSGunny,which electronic engines, that you know off, can you pull start?(so with a manual box AND dead batteries)
I know off none so manual or automatic makes no difference.

Towing is the same ,manual or auto,remove driveshaft if you are going more then 1 mile.

 

A buddy of mine got his FL with a DD15 started the other day by bump starting it..... Never heard of it mattering if the truck is mechanical or electronic to get that to work, but obviously it wouldn't work with an auto if the batteries are dead.

 

Milskired,where your buddy's batteries dead?
I think not,as far as i know you need a certain voltage or the fuelpump stays shut.

And if i'm wrong...............then i will have learned something new.

 

I carried a chain and jump pulled a few manuals. Just because there is not enough juice to turn the starter doesn't mean there is not enough to energize the ECM. Most of your sensors work on 5V. Besides the alternator puts out almost instantaneously. In regards to towing you remove the drive axles, not the shaft. You'd leak fluid all over the place.

 

Heavens, no. Can't have shaft fluid leaking all over the place.

That'd be downright unseemly.

 

Not sure about the newer stuff but my trucks with the Alison MD3060 and MD3565 simply roll in gear or out when the engine is dead but I would never pull them more than a few feet to get them into the shop without removing the drive shaft (the Alison's have their own ECM that communicates with the engine ECM)

 

Not sure how dead but dead enough to keep it from cranking. Lets just say so times he isnt the sharpest knife!

 

You mean like the older, more experienced driver I sawa few days ago forget to use his clutch and buck the truck into the car in front of him?

You guys make all these claims about how lazy this generation is, but which generation do you see most of the piss bottles, #### bags, parking on the fuel islands, that's right, the ones who should know better.

And automatic doesn't make you lazy. Congratu-f'n-lationd you know how to use a clutch and shift, the FIRST thing most people learn to do with these trucks. I'm not impressed. I have way more respect for someone who drives auto and flawlessly steers that trailer than someone driving auto that I'm surprised could even dress himself.

The type of transmission doesn't make the trucker, the ability and competence to do your job does. Run NYC rush hour traffic every day and say the ones that want automatic are lazy

 

Yet many might not know that. Back in my days you could turn a Cummings fuel pump on manual if the batteries were dead & pull start it, that is if you had a manual transmission.

Once going south of Indio, CA the conventional KW I was driving all of a sudden went dead. I had no idea what was going on. I pulled over on the two lane road. Quickly found out my batteries were dead as a door nail. I was on a very slight downgrade. I turned the pump on manual, got back in, put my tranny in 4th, released the brakes, for a moment I thought I was not going to roll forward, yet in a few seconds it began to roll forward, I let the clutch out, & away I went.

I went on & got loaded them went to a shop, the parallel switch went out.

I feel sure with an automatic transmission that day the tuck would have been there until someone could out & fix it, & I would have been very late in getting my load. The way it worked out I didn't lose any time, after I ate supper & went back to the shop it was ready to go.