JB Hunt - Lowell, Ar.

Interesting you brought that up, how do you know I am at home? I could be working for a company that makes me sit and I am taking up my time online to entertain myself with somebody like you that has nothing better to do then use diferent usernames on a websight DEDICATED for serious people dedicated to the trucking industry.

After reading your last post you can tell me why I should NOT delete the posts that were made using the ISP for davis_int and BigDawg...

 

Most states have telephone harassment laws so actually if they continue to call and you have told them not to it is illegal. Get the name of the person calling, inform them that if you are called again you will file a complaint with your states Attorney Generals office for telephone harassment. Tell them that even if another person calls for JB Hunt you will make the complaint out in their name. Keep a log of the calls and follow through with your complaint if the calls don't stop. You maybe entitled to compensation as a result

 

What you say might be true, if not for the fact that there are quite a few references to be found on the net in regard to JB Hunt, and the way they treat people. This is but one of them.

I don't know the figures, and would not pretend to, but JB Hunt is like most any company out there, in that they most certainly have drivers that have stuck with them for lengths of time, but they still suffer astounding turnover rates, because many people fall through the cracks.

I talk to drivers all the time, and the chief complaints that I hear from those working for JB Hunt are still a lack of quality hometime, and low mileage. As I offered in another thread, they have improved somewhat, but they have long way to go. Their recruiting department needs a complete overhauling, for the "bait and switch" tactics that are repeatedly complained about. Nothing tees off a driver more than to take the time to go through a hiring process, to learn that the job applied for doesn't exist.

The biggest thing that turns me off to them, is the constantly changing standards and terms they offer. They are not consistent. They are deceptive.

Honesty goes a long way, and I have no reason to think that JB Hunt is operating on honest terms with people they recruit. I've read too many testimonies that suggest otherwise.

 

The gentleman in question is what I like to term..."a plant". He's probably a recruiter or a member of lower management for JB Hunt attempting to thwart the purpose of this site.

Tactics such as this only expose just how pathetic things are out there.

Nice catch Portlanddriver.

 

You are a recruiter, and as such, there is not a word you could print into this forum that could be trusted in any sense of the word.

Please be advised that because of the deceptive method in which you entered this forum, and because you have already fabricated testimonyon two occasions, all further posts that even HINT an attempt to recruit drivers in discussion threads, will be removed upon discovery.

Please read the terms and use for this forum section, and I request that you abide by the policies set forth.

 

You problobly already looked but bigdawg has the same IP as a diferent username. We had an exchange a couple days ago and neither has posted sence.

 

Yes, I saw that you were on top of it. It's one thing for someone to offer a counterpoint to posts in here, and it's completely something else to pose as a driver for a company, when the fact is they are a recruiter, who is seeking payment for signing up drivers.

I hope no one gives him the time of day. I know I wouldn't. Who knows what garbage he would tell someone to get them to sign on with JB Hunt.

 

Why is it that one "Lame" that doesn't know the industry always ends up here complaining about his failure with a certain company? You let yourself get walked on then accept the failure as your own! Companies test your limits for a reason, to see if you can handle the "Valuable" loads without losing their customer base.

If you're a "Lame" and can't even tell whether Florida is East or West of California, "Like A JB HUNT" driver asked us on CH 19 just last week, then you shouldn't even possess a CDL. This is a business where "Results" are solely your responsibility. Don't expect someone to "Hold Your Hand" and pay you when they're "Baby Sitting" you all the time. Shut your mouth, do your job and do it well. The rewards will go alot further than running your mouth over frivolous B.S.

"If You Have Time To Snibble", you're not a trucker. The time it took you to write the complaint could have been better spent seeking a load! Time Management is just the first "Skill" a good driver has. If you lack that...you're way behind the winners to begin with.

Geno.
A J.B. Hunt "Proud" Owner Operator...and very successful one at that.

 

Wow!!! a defender. I'm glad to see this....

Who would you be referring to as a "lame"? It doesn't really matter. The purpose of this site and the forum is to give drivers a voice and a place to counter all the negative information that they must fight on a daily basis, offered by companies out there, where their word is considered gospel.

I find your comments interesting. I also feel the need to respond to them.

So...companies walk all over people as a form of a "test"? This little secret has been kept under many people's hats, and I feel so fortunate to finally learn it. I thought that the reason that drivers are abused is because there are people out there with sadistic tendencies, and they in turn are seeking masochists.

Given a legal dispatch, I see no reason why ANY driver should fail to get a load, be it valuable or otherwise, where it needs to go without problem.

I see. Well...permit me to play devil's advocate here, but isn't it highly possible that because this industry does not require formal education in order to do the job, and because it has always welcomed people with lower education levels, that there are going to be people that need a little direction from time to time? Okay...You've cited an extreme example of a person that apparently had no sense of direction. That is scary. But rather than to make fun of someone like that, why not simply help them and spare them embarassment?

I've known people that could not sign their name with anything but an "X", and they became wonderful drivers, but there is no way they could have done this without help from other drivers that took the time to assist them.

When I reflect on some of the things I did as a newbie many years ago, it's a wonder that I lived through my first OTR trip. I might post on that experience sometime. It was quite an introduction to the job.

Of course, for me to respond to this comment properly with an understanding of what you consider to be "frivolous", I am therefore forced to make assumptions.

Many people enter this industry, coming from careers that offer totally different working conditions and standards. For many, the contrasts and comparisons are hard to understand and/or swallow.

Trading a system of compensation that is based upon the number of hours worked for one that is performance based, and consisting of so many hours that are not recognized as "work" does tend to raise some eyebrows. I've been trucking for more just about 23 years now, and I still don't like the way drivers are expected to do things for nothing, and re-categorize it for the benefit of the company.

The vast majority of training institutions out there, that are supposed to be preparing people to drive a truck, shove them through the basics in a minimal amount of time, then trainees move on to the next level, where what they have learned thus far, is usually decimated by the training of an ill-informed veteran, or worse, by another newbie with little experience themselves. There are no standards set for what constitutes quality training, and this fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants approach, has been proven to be dangerous, discouraging, and above all...frustrating to people.

Now...this subject might seem to be misplaced in a thread about JB Hunt, but I say is belongs here and in every thread. This subject cannot be discussed enough. Of course, any job should be done well, but for some, that's not good enough. The more you do for some of these companies, the more they expect or want from you the next time. There is no top level of expectation. You never reach the peak.

Let's talk about the rules and regulations. How many newbies, or veterans for that matter, find out in their first month after starting with a company that abiding by those rules and regulations is nothing but lip service? They sit in an orientation class, and are told that you will abide by these rules, or you will not work here. What happens very soon after you leave that orientation? You are told by dispatch that you will get that load there on time, or you will not work here...

Let's also not forget the fact that if and when a driver is detained at an inspection location and is found to be in violation, and is shut down and/or cited with a very big fine, the company will wash their hands of all complicity in the matter. "No..SIR", "Our drivers do not run illegal:...

But of course, drivers should "shut their mouths, do their jobs, and do them well"....The above are NOT frivolous issues. They are serious issues, and they need to be addressed.

This is why I devote my time and efforts to inform others of the fact that they exist, and that the companies that exploit people for the sake of the almighty dollar, while having no consideration for what is in the driver's wallets or is taken from them, do not deserve any consideration as a legitimate source of income.

I could easily point out the glaring hypocracy in your post, but it serves no purpose to do so. Through discussion and the dissemination of thoughts, opinions and facts, we all learn.

Time management is absolutely a part of every driver's job. The thing is, there are so many companies out there that expect a driver to work miracles with a logbook, and once that line is crossed, you can't go back.

Let me ask you a question, if you have enough time in with JB Hunt to have any insight into the way they operate...

How many people have been fired for problems with their logbooks, when "keeping their mouths shut, doing the job demanded of them, and doing it well", resulted in their inability to meet the standards of the Safety Department's logging audits?

Let me pose a couple of other questions as well...

How many people do you think have been sold on the concept that "driving big trucks, means big bucks", only to find that reality is far different?

How many decent people have put forth the effort to learn a new career, spent thousands of dollars for training, or worse, signed agreements for that training, and were fired in the first few months for having an accident, because they were not trained properly, or turned loose too soon? Then when they are blackballed, they lose their homes, their possessions, their dignity, and their credit ratings.

How many people have had their jobs threatened by a dispatcher for resisting efforts to force a driver to go against everything they have been told that they are not supposed to do, because the dispatcher doesn't want to deal with having to find an alternative way to get the job done legally?

Now I could make other assumptions about what kind of driver you are, and what your attention level to the rules and regulations is, but I will not do that either.

I will tell you that through a concerted effort by people who care to inform others of the bad companies out here, and the companies that offer quality compensation, quality working conditions, and respect for the general public through their efforts to run a clean operation, it will result in a transformation in this industry that the Government will never do with their oversight and the passage of a million regulations.

I will further tell you that it is possible to make a fine living in this industry while running 100% compliant with the rules and regulations. You can do this without having to take crap from a lazy dispatcher. You can do it without having to be lied to on a consistent basis. You can do this without having to entomb yourself in a truck for weeks at a time, and begging to get home to see your loved ones for 36 hours at a time, and then being bugged to hit the road again.

All these things are possible because all it takes is for people to inform themselves, take a little time to make wiser decisions in selecting the right job for them, and to quit feeding these scum carriers applications for employment, wiping their slave mentality from existence.

Glad to meet you. I'm also happy for you. I don't doubt that you are either. The question is...what do you have to do to be successful while leased to that company? Are you in compliance at all times, or do you bend the rules constantly?

Keep in mind that I have in my nicotine stained fingers at the moment (Yeah...I borrowed that line from Rush), a copy of both their Lease/Purchase and Lessor/Operator summaries....

I will submit a post on both tomorrow, if time will allow....

 

It is but a small "Handful" of Quality drivers we encounter within this industry now days. You appear to be one of the few. I respect your comments, candor, and honesty in writting.

If you haven't noticed, I rarely spend time writting on these sites because it seems to be a futile effort in the never ending arena of "One Voice" speaks louder than "None" scenario.

I will reconsider my dedication to making a difference and post more often.

Lets address two key issues that we both seem to agree on based on experience.

A: Employment with "Any" company is a life altering move for anyone regardless of "Race", "Age", "Religion", etc... Lets not forget that when we "Seek Employment" we are doing just that, "Seeking". Nobody twisted your arm to fill out and sign the application. We applied for work and were offered a position. We accepted that position in good faith that we would be successful.

Theory~ "We Pave The Road To Our Own Success", our employer simply provides the tools to succede.

In this scenario, I will refer to my approach to the position accepted. As a newbie driver, I too was somewhat "Dumbfounded" by all the hurdles laying accross that road to success. However, they were merely hurdles. One cannot be "Intimidated" by such hurdles if he/she wants to succede. They are hurdles that will appear regardless of the company you drive for.
How we handle these hurdles defines the condition of the road we must travel to reach our goals.

In my previous post, I used the word "Lame" to freely, and apologize for being so directive and judgemental. But I must defend my reason for pointing out this type of person in "General".

Granted, not all of us are "Well Educated" and no it isn't a requirement for employment. But would you not agree that having basic acedemic skills is a must in order to "Survive" this industry? I too place blame with recruiters and pretty much everyone down the chain to D.O.T. test sites. Because there is such a huge shortage of drivers in our industry, desperate measures are taken regardless of the risk, and unfortunately we as well seasoned drivers have to pick up the pieces constantly.

B: My Success.

First of all, I feel it necessary to point out that I possess 6 years of college with two degrees that don't mean crap in this industry other than "Personal" skills that aide my survival and success.

I am a driver trainer. If you know the industry as well as I presume, you know this is where the $$$ is.

I deal with all walks of life and some walks I never imagined existed. I take my position very seriously as it's my belief that the future of our industry lies in my hands as well as fellow trainers. To this date, my track record is 98% rollover trainees. That means that I rarely disqualify a driver and if so it's because I have determined that this person is a "Risk" not only to my company, but the "General Public" who just so happens to be my primary concern when on the road.

My signature "If you have time to snibble your not a trucker" works well in my training. Drivers have come back to me with grattitude for teaching them that "Time" is our greatest ally in this industry. Take time to plan your loads, take time to communicate your needs with your DM, take time "Organize Yourself" first, then organize the load, and most importantly "Take Your Time" in every decision you make while behind the wheel. Five seconds seems to be a blink of an eye...people die in a blink of an eye. That 5 seconds could save a life and will not slow you down in delivering the load. However, neglecting to take your time could cost you "Countless" hours of downtime as well as your career.

I'm digressing, sorry.

Lets get back to "Success".

First 6 months of your driving career is a "Learning and Testing" period that is unavoidable regardless of who you work for. When I say testing, I mean really testing "You" as a responsible adult primarily. Do you take direction accurately and without hesitation? Do you follow directions easily? Do you "Look For Faults" as opposed to "Solutions To Faults"? Do you demonstrate "Professionalism" or an attitude of "I'm The Best and Know Everything"? Are you intimidated by the task at hand? Are you intimidated by road conditions? Are you intimidated by a tight dock?

All of these hurdles will be thrown at you. If you are not a problem solver within yourself, you will not succede in this industry..."BOTTOM LINE". Think your DM is going to fly from Florida to California and back that 53' trailer into a dock for you? You are the "Professional" and are required to exemplify your professionalism in all facets of this industry. In doing so, you will be rewarded appropriately.

I've been driving a grand total of 9 months. Imagine that. Drove 6 months for one company who treated me like crap for 90 days, then the loads started getting way better because I didn't complain ever during my tenure. When I left that company, I did so with a big "Thank You" for the oportunity and thanked everyone I encountered within the organization. Why would I do this? Protecting my D.A.C. of course, and guess what. JB Hunt put me in a training position right from hire date based on my demonstration of "Professionalism" in the previous workplace.

So...Snibbling and Complaining in my mind gets you nothing but "Temporary" relief from heartburn. Take some pride in who you "Are" and work your ### off towards who you want to "Be". One who holds his head up high doesn't see the crap that lies beneath. The crap beneath may rise above to "You" one day, but better to raise to you than you having to dig through it to see daylight.

I'm proud of my profession, and more proud of the quality drivers I'm helping to succede in our industry. I'm available to help anyone who has a desire to succede. (951) 662-5313 my cell is on 24/7

I leave you with this to ponder. "I won't wish you to have a NICE DAY". "I'd rather see you MAKE IT A GREAT DAY!"

Geno