"General Public" and a strike. HELP!!!

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  1. Out0fTheMist

    Out0fTheMist Bobtail Member

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    1st of all , let me say I do not know that much about OOIDA, so I apologize for speaking out of line, and for personally attacking anyone…..I usually don’t do that and it’s just not me. No excuse.

    That being said, I stand by everything else I said. For me, being an American (and a human being) means I help my fellow man. I read your post about how rising fuel prices and food/fuel cost do not affect some of you and I can honestly say I am happy for you. However, as I have stated before this is not just about “YOU”. This is about US, as a country.
    I have read talk of giving up my SUV (try 95 Geo Prism, never even owned an SUV), I read how the others are living outside of their incomes (that’s such a joke in my world). The people I work with are the poor, the elderly, the handicap and single parents. They don’t have credit cards, nice cars or nice houses. Instead they are fighting on a daily basis just to survive the rising cost of fuel, food, medicines and to keep their lights turned on one more day. I promise not to go into the whole spill again on how they are struggling mainly due to it is falling on deaf ears.

    I support the convoy and a strike for their sakes. I plan on parking my car (along with my co-workers) and we are taking off work as long as we can when and if this comes about. Not for our sakes, but for theirs. I know of others in the “General Public” that is also supporting the truckers in every way they can. We know what a strike can do as far as the trucking industry and this country. Every item moved starts with you the truckers. Will it hurt the general public along with the truckers, you Betcha, but at this point we are desperate for a change, even if that means watching our country come to a standstill. Do I think a strike or a convoy will settle all of the issues facing our country? NO!!!! I think the American public needs to take our country back from the government that has put us in this position. This is only a start to say we have had enough.

    By the way, not that you would care but we just helped another single mom who is now on the streets with 3 kids due to she can’t afford her Mobile Home rent of $350.00. Instead she has been using the money she makes each week as a waitress to put food on the table and gas in her car to get to and from work. But that’s ok but some of you, she is at least working and living within her means.

    I will also add another personal plug into this. I raised 2 kids to adulthood (now ages 34 and 31 with kids of their own) that also help others. I have one that will graduate this year. At 18, she is a volunteer firefighter and EMT. She also volunteers at the same agency I do as a volunteer helping others. The 18 year old is a senior and also working a full time job, makes her own car payment on a beat up little car, pays her own insurance, buys her own gas and still donates her own money (she bought that same mother above food for her kids) and her time to those less fortunate.
    So keep your gloves off and bark up another tree it’s not working for me.
     
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  3. Out0fTheMist

    Out0fTheMist Bobtail Member

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    Yoda, I was happy to read that you are participating at least in the convoy. There is hope in this world!
     
  4. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Obviously, it worked very well for you. Especialy since you took the time to spin my comments, and take MY comments out of context.

    Then make it a personal attack.

    YOU and people like you. Are the problem. Use the issues of other people who are less fortunate to make themselves appear to be a caring person.

    Polititions do this all the time. But, it's really all about.......

    Me Me Me Me Me

    My mother raised 3 kids ALONE working in a factory all day. Welfare and Food Stamps were NEVER an option. There were no hand outs, even from close family.

    So for you to hold up a single mother of 3 as an example to me and others. Is a mute point.

    Until you open your own home up to them. You've done LESS than I have for a struggling family.

    But if it makes you feel good to give them a few dollars worth of groceries. By all means do it.

    Oh....and go ahead and take off work. Hell, that's how we all get things done around here, when things are tough.
     
  5. Out0fTheMist

    Out0fTheMist Bobtail Member

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    Excuse me, but if I remember correctly you responded to a thread and had words to say to me. I responded in turn and don't remember turning around anything you said. Nope, I just checked, I didn't change a word you said and don't think I read it out of context. . I don't recall attacking you and I am not using others problems to do anything but raise awareness to their plight. For your information my home is always open to anyone that needs a place to stay. I walk my talk! If you have read my other post then you would find out that this is my life work and I love my job. Trust me when I say, it's not the hourly pay that keeps me here.
    BTW when your mother was raising 3 kids she didn't face what the single parents/the elderly and the poor today are facing regarding rising cost and that includes her cost on medicines, food and fuel today.
     
  6. iowabmw

    iowabmw Medium Load Member

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    you see I would strike, IF the big IF they had a solid leader, solid plan, and solid solution to the problem!!!!!

    How in the world do they expect anything to change, if they don't even have a solution to the problem?
     
  7. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    You are correct with that assesment.

    Incorrect in the snipped part...that was a generalization of the enitre picture...not just your snapshot.

    My mother was audited by the IRS, and had to prove she had 3 kids. Because they said she did not make enough money to support a family of 4.

    I walked to school, along with my sisters. The buses did not pick up in town when I was young. Elementary was about a mile, Middle school about 2 miles. And high school about 3 miles.

    My mother either walked or caught a ride from a friend, to work. Our first car cost $125, need I say junk?

    I can't tell you how many times my mother (and myself) went to work with a 100+ fever. Because we could not afford a doctor, or the meds. Let alone taking off work to see a doctor.

    Sacrifice was what this country was built on. And you are correct. Today's generation does not know what yesterdays generation had to do in order to survive.

    Nor do they care.
     
  8. yoda

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    There in lies the rub...

    Change is needed BUT at what cost? Solutions are needed but are the real problems being addressed or simply political agendas?

    Do we follow blindly behind people willing to bring the whole country down to get attention? ( Reminds me sometimes of my children falling on the floor and thrashing their fists and screaming to get attention.)

    I will not fall into the I am a better person than you so do what I say garbage... I do what I do, when I do it, (and make as much effort as possible to make sure NO ONE knows who did it,) that is the way I was taught real people who "really care", act.

    The discussion here is of a "truckers strike" over high fuel prices.

    The beginning of finding a solution is in identifying the causes of a problem and identifying the possible efforts that will change the causes resulting in relief.

    It is popular to blame the tree huggers because they stop drilling to preserve ecologies.. But the problem is not the result of low supplies..

    It is popular to blame the greedy oil companies because they have monstrous profits expressed in dollars, but they are now so BIG that their budgets are bigger than the USA national budget. If a fair profit on investment is 1 percent, they are poor performers because their profit is less than .001 percent.

    It is popular to blame the speculators on the commodities markets, ( they do after all represent almost half the current price.)

    It is popular to blame the government for adding to the strategic reserve.. ( did you know BTW that oil pumped into the reserve not being subject to the commodities pricing is still 42 dollars a barrel... the real price of oil?)

    It is popular to blame the consumers of motor fuel even though motor fuel is 30 percent of what petroleum is used for and in fact motor fuel demand has shrunk by 15 percent this year from last years levels.

    It is popular to call for a strike, to claim that a strike represents "taking OUR country back" even though no one has ever explained how a strike will accomplish anything other than anarchy and riots when the supplies are PERCEIVED to run low.

    Take the example of the much ballyhooed "rice rationing" of the last few days.. Thanks to the massive coverage by the popular news channels Americans were somehow convinced that there was a world wide rice shortage and it was now here in the USA.

    The price of rice on the MERC shot straight up so of course some citizens went to the stores and bought rice.. Only after Mondays trading session on the merc did anyone admit the truth about the rice shortage, that it was only one commercial brand of rice in one small region due to a lack of truck deliveries...LOL

    So who will be hurt by a strike? If it lasts long enough to start riots and anarchy every citizen will be hurt when more and more government intervention occurs, civil liberties will be diminished, and the rich will trade their futures contracts franticly making wind fall profits to offset their losses...

    UNLESS of course you intend to bring down the government like those strikers in ITALY did....

    Then all bets are off as the crowd assumes control... we don't have revolving governments via vote of no confidence after all here, our elections are scheduled events not ad hoc.

    It might be like the French revolution, or like the Bolshevik one... but it won't be like the American one I can assure you..

    Just my opinion.
     
  9. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    I've seen too many oppurtunist on this issue already. Even listened to some of them speak. Most were nothing more than grease monkeys in suits trying to take advantage/control of a situation they did not even understand.

    I'm seeing things on the street and highway, I never thought I would see in MY country. And, it's making me very #### nervous.

    While the answers I have gotten for what I've seen have all been related to Department of Homeland Security. I fail to see the need for 50 cal turrent mounted weapons in rural America.

    I fail to see the need for Military style "police issued" weapons that have a fire rate in excess of 1500 rounds per minute, in rural America.

    I fail to see the Police Department needing, 4 Armoured Personel Carriers, in a town with only 3300 people.

    Call me paranoid or crazy...But I DO NOT like what I am seeing.
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  10. peashooter

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    :biggrin_25510: Hey "Out of the mist" Seems you really don"t know much about truckers,don"t drive one,don"t own one,but stiil you want to B---- about our "Courtesy,Courage,Sincerity,Self control,and most of all our HONOR & LOYALTY.Maybe you and gearjammer should start hunting the tree huggers you blame for the countrys troubles and leave us hard working truckers alone.
     
  11. iowabmw

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    Exactly what I have been thinking! It also reminds me of children throwing the screaming, kicking, crying fits on the floor of a store becaus ethey can't get their candy bar.

    I was not around for the baby Boomers generation, or anything before that, however I have been taught very valuable things, that todays generation can't seem to grasp.

    1. WORK for what you want!

    2. You don't get to the top of the ladder, without taking all the other lower steps. (many people expect to get to the top without working your way up)

    3. SCARIFCES are golden, if you can't afford something then scarfice something else to buy it, or figure out a way to make more money to pay for it. .........

    4. Many wise men have told me this before.

    PICK ONLY 2

    1. Price
    2. Quailty (Clean showered, clean trucks, uniformed, etc.)
    3. Service (On time delivery, no load claims, etc..)

    I also recently attended some seminars at MATS this year and I heard something.

    The biggest mistake o/o's make is "what does this load pay?"

    WE provide a service, we should tell them what we want to haul that load.

    He also said, what would you do if a Plumber came to your house and asked you how much you wanted to pay him to fix your broken pipe?

    We provide a SERVICE (just like brokers, plumbers, carpenters, etc.) and we MUST tell them what WE want to haul that load.
     
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