Why does a dry break have to be threaded?

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by ethos, Aug 7, 2014.

  1. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Wouldn't it defeat its purpose to remove it? Any liquid trapped behind the valve on the dry break would come out if you removed it by cam lock at the customer or tank wash. Leave it on and it could easily be stolen. Best to be a permanent part of the trailer. My guess at least.
     
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  3. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

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    I get the point on theft but I don't think anyone would remove it at the customer. You would just leave it on and let the wash deal with it.
     
  4. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I could see that happening. The driver would treat it like a fitting and throw it in the side box especially when he is dropping the trailer at a tank wash and grabbing a clean one
     
  5. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

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    I actually have one issued to me. But I always have to have the shop install it, the route me there even if I did have a pipe wrench.
     
  6. BigPerm

    BigPerm Medium Load Member

    With all the liability issues, & HazMat regs, any quick-release load/unload fitting sounds really, really sketchy. I doubt the major terminals would let you load fuel with that kind of setup. And, the brake interlock paddles come into play too.
     
  7. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

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    How is it different than a standard hose then? Hoses aren't threaded.
     
  8. BigPerm

    BigPerm Medium Load Member

    A dry break has a big flat disc, w/ outside mating flange that corresponds to the exact opposite flange on the loading arm...male & female if you will. There is a sliding collar that aligns the two...& when a lever is turned, the non-truck side of the assembly depresses the truck side disc, thereby opening the manifold to receive product & locking the two flanges together...all sealed up with O-rings, etc. No leaks upon hooking up or disconnecting ( with any luck ). When loading Gas, Diesel, Jet etc , the outer connector generally ( always in my experience ) depresses a paddle / lever that sets the trailer brakes so you cannot pull off the rack still hooked up to the loading arms. Some trailers also have the safety device on the vapor hose.

    Same idea as the hydraulic hose connector on an end-dump. or low-bed, only more sophisticated.

    A 4" hose under enough pressure to load 8000 gallons of liquid in about 15-minute can create a disaster in seconds.
     
  9. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

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    Okay but bust those camlocks on the hose and you have just as big of a problem, what would liability matter if you could bust the camlocks on the break? I don't get your point.
     
  10. BigPerm

    BigPerm Medium Load Member

    Maybe I'm not understanding. I don't think you would want the drybreak affixed to the manifolding via camlok. It should be a threaded fitting that cannot come off easily. I haven't checked lately but EMCO-WHEATON or Parker-Hannnefin websites should show somethin'. The terminal side of the drybreak is not a camlok affair at all. Check out some pic's of a rack & you'll probably see what I'm describing.
     
  11. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    We have a shipper that has to have a drybreak on the trailer to load. Then the consignee has to have the regular cam locks to unload. We have a box at the shipper with some pipe tape and a pipe wrench. We change to a dry break to load then change back when done. get a few $$ for doing this but I still don't like it. I asked the loader if we could use a drybreak fitting that hooked up with camlock. They said no way, that it's not allowed. Couldn't find out if that's just a company policy or legal requirement.
     
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