Crete/Shaffer or Schneider

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Douggiemac, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. Douggiemac

    Douggiemac Bobtail Member

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    Hey all,

    So I just found out this week that I quailifed for a Grant through the State of Pennsylvania to get my CDL A license at a local driving school close to me. This is awesome for me since I'm new to the USA (oringaly from Canada) and wanting to get out of the security field (which I have been for 11 years).

    I was wonering what company is better for a newbie starting out in this awesome and rewarding field. I have boiled everything down to two companies. Crete/Shaffer and Schneider Tranpsort. I will be attending one of the certified driving schools that Crete/Shaffer hires from so I thought I would reach out and ask everyone here their thoughts.

    I did drive CDL B trucks back in Canada, delivering bread to costco, bottle water to homes and stores, and most recently delivering Pharmaceuticals to hospitals and stores before I moved down to the states due to my wives father having health problems.


    thank you in advance for all your help.
     
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  3. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Old Dominion would be the best choice. They do hire new CDL graduates. Call and ask if you live close enough to one of their terminals to be hired.

    Schneider bulk division would pay the best annually as far as Schneider divisions.
     
  4. Snowshoes

    Snowshoes Heavy Load Member

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    I started out with Crete, they were not a good fit for me. But that is my own experience, they may work out for someone else. I have heard allot has changed since I worked for them in 2007.
     
  5. freightwipper

    freightwipper Road Train Member

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    For me.. it's mainly all about money.
    Schneider pay is garbage, some of the lowest pay scales I've seen around.

    I came to Crete/Shaffer because for OTR the pay higher than everybody besides Walmart.
    Less than one year experience here and I'm at .43CPM, you won't come anywhere near that at Schneider.
    I've only been here a few months but the least I've grossed in a full week is $1100 here.

    Now of course the smart choice would just be jumping right into LTL right away.
    I plan on eventually going into LTL

    I can say Crete will give you a trainer with 3+ years experience and you'll be out for a trainer for 2 months and pay you $500 a week during that time from last i've heard.
    Schneider's training is 2-3 weeks last I heard and you're only out with a trainer not that full time.
    Some complain 2 months of training is difficult, it is not fun to be in a truck with someone that long but Crete is investing in you.. they are spending more money on you to make sure you are safe and learn the right way.
     
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  6. Douggiemac

    Douggiemac Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the information so far guys I greatly appreicate it.

    How many years have you been driving Freightwipper? I spoke with a rep with Crete and they told me I would start at either .34 (dry Box) or .35 (refer). I would see a pay wise to .40 or .41 after a year of service with them. I would also be getting min of 2200 a week for the first few months, then would go from there after i get more experience.

    The 2 months training doesn't really scare me away, just means they spend more time making sure your ready to be on your own when the times comes.
     
  7. Iceman1984

    Iceman1984 Light Load Member

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    When I talked to Shaffer they told me to call them back once I had 4 months of experience...are they now hiring CDL graduates or is it dependent on location?
     
  8. Douggiemac

    Douggiemac Bobtail Member

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    I'm going to one of there certified driving schools. In doing so they wave the 4 months experience requirement. But you are starting at a lower pay. Dry box is .34 a mile and refer is .35
     
  9. Puppage

    Puppage Road Train Member

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    Is Crete a team driving company?
     
  10. Douggiemac

    Douggiemac Bobtail Member

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    That I don't know to tell you truth. Check their website
     
  11. Brandson

    Brandson Medium Load Member

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    Old dominion would be a great choice to start with if they'd take you, I know their pay is great. I think that involves driving doubles and/or unloading your own trailers though, which not everyone is into. I would definitely talk to them.

    As for straight OTR, Crete is great. Sounds like you're looking at the 2 week fleet. Have a couple friends that do/have done that fleet, and they both got excellent miles, and our OTR cpm is first rate. Crete has the least amount of bad trainer horror stories that I can recall. EVERY company has bad trainers, but I honestly think Crete has one of the better chances of getting you a good one. Not gonna lie, I think 8 weeks of training is excessive, but it's just something to deal with to go with a great company. There are companies you could drive for where a guaranteed 500 a week would look nice, lol. The 8 weeks training is 2 parts, so you do go home for a few days in between, possibly get another trainer. Crete will also teach you, and insure, that you do all your logging and daily procedures legally. One downside of Crete is that their safety department likes to take a lot of "extra precautions", often/always being stricter than DOT on requirements. That's likely an insurance boost for them, but you get used to it, and it's really not a big deal, just grating if they get on you for something that isn't a DOT issue. Also, if you're fat, you're gonna get sleep tested. Sleep studies, especially at Crete..... have a pretty low success rate as far as getting away without a CPAP machine.

    Odd to throw in here, but USX is also putting out a huge pay raise this year. Their rates are going to be pretty close to Crete. Their team rates are going to be better than 99% of what first year drivers are going to see I believe. The management system there is completely different there tho. If you like being a number, and having a company that isn't going to be on your back, because they don't actually realize you're there, USX is nice. That's not sarcasm. Sometimes slipping through the cracks and being left alone is nice, as long as you keep running.

    Good luck buddy. You're obviously looking ahead, doing some research and making sure that you're not another loser going to work for sub par rates at Swift/Werner, allowing rates to stay continuously low in the industry. This is a hard job, make sure you're getting paid what you deserve.
     
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