Do I have to log this?

The official answer would be yes. You can't use personal conveyance, even though you are not under dispatch and bobtail, if you are taking it to have work done on it. That'd be drive line time. Naturally your off time is still off time. This would be what the DOT will tell you. What you do is your business.

 

not necessarily true, it depends on who owns the truck. he isn't under dispatch, is bobtail and doing it for personal use if he owns it. I myself have logged things like that off duty, I have even flagged fuel stops as off duty while on personal conveyance and never had the log dept question it.

but then I own both truck and trailer and am leased to a carrier

 

If its your truck I would log it as off duty. If its there truck I wouold log it as on duty and turn in a bill for the time.

 

Dont buy fuel if plan on using the 34 hr restart over your weekend off.

 

its fine, just flag it as personal conveyance, no difference thatn buying gas for the car in that case

 

I wouldn't log it. As far as I'm concerned, if you're not 'under load' and off duty (bobtailing), you're off duty. DOT wants you 'on duty' during breakdowns, for example... Well, you're under load, right?

Are routine repairs breakdowns? No, I don't think so. But if you're a company driver and required to take truck over to Cummins, you're 'on duty' during that time.

For a Haz outfit, when we went out of town (which was all the time), we logged regular. When doing little stuff in town (Indy) we just logged it 'on duty' because of the many starts and stops.

Figure an EOBR will typically give you 2 miles before it kicks you into 'driving'. Mine did. So I give myself the same leeway with my paper logs. If I bobtail 30 miles home instead of leave truck in yard, I don't bother log it, just make sure my last change of duty went to 'off duty'. If I clean up, wash truck or make some repairs do I log 'on duty'? No-o-o-o-o. I'm not under load.

Now if there's a problem, you hit something, something hits you to or from repair shop, maybe some would then fetch the magic eraser... Dunno. For me, if I'm not responsible for moving a load, I'm off duty. Suppose could very well be different for someone else, different situation.

 

I guess the Do I,Dont I argument is as old as the logbook rules.

 

With the last two companies I drove for you can do that and log it off duty driving (You can do that for 30 minutes). Unless things have changed in the past year. If I remember correctly whe I first started they would let us take our truck to a restaurant if we bobtailed and we did not have to log it, that was in 2007