You are forgetting something, time worked.
2500 miles a week at 60MPH vs 50MPH averaged is about an extra 8.5 hours to cover the same amount of miles
It's not free money, your days are longer by driving slow to make the same miles.
As a company driver it's not worth it, an O/O... sure.
Here's an example
Take driving 110,000 per year at .40 per mile as a company driver
Driver A averaging 60MPH earns $44000 taking 1,833 hours of driving time
Drive B averaging 50MPH earns $49000 (including $5k fuel bonus) taking 2,200 hours of driving time
However that $5k comes with driving an extra 367 hours and those hours comes to about $13.60 per hour to make that $5k
If that $13.60 per hour bonus money for driving slow is worth it to you, knock yourself out
Break it down even further at yearly 110,000 miles
Driver A: averaging 60MPH earns $44000 taking 1,833 hours of driving time which comes to $24 per hour of driving
Driver B: averaging 50MPH earns $49000 (including $5k bonus) taking 2,200 hours of driving time comes to $22.20 per hour of driving
In other words a company driver is earning LESS $ Per hour of driving by going slow.
The Fuel bonus is just a scam to milk the company driver, as simple as that
That bonus in reality comes to you working extra hours or "overtime" for $13.60 an hour woopeedo $13.60
fyi I do make jokes on this site, be careful before you judge.. including my math.
Prime has the SLOWEST sorry trucks on the road today, it's not even close
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Going 52MPH in a 70MPH zone makes the road LESS safe.
Drivers continuously hitting their brakes, changing lanes due to Mr. Slow guy ... increases the odds of somebody making a mistake.
Missing their blind spot, rear ending you.. etc.
Safety at Prime probably has come excuse because they make more money out of you by going slow, but common sense is common sense and it does not make the roads safer. -
You're wrong on both counts. Perhaps in a drop 'n hook world with no appointments your argument makes sense, but with freight controlled with load and unload appointments it doesn't. It means you spend more time spinning your wheels doing (and being paid) nothing in a truck stop.
As for the contention that going faster is safer... that's only marginally true in heavy traffic, and even then it is a contributing cause to accidents. Look at NHSA stastics and you'll never find "going slow" as a contributing factor to an accident. Prime's own experience shows a decrease in crashes when the fleet was slowed down.
If you crash into a slower moving vehicle, who gets the ticket? You, as the driver of the faster vehicle, and the one at the back of any chain-reaction crash. -
Maybe you could get some sleep or surf the truckers report with that extra time...
Or maybe they could tighten up the
" appointments"........
P.S. Found this without trying......
http://www.esurance.com/safety/driving-too-slowlyLast edited: Aug 23, 2014
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We we have a driver at work that says he has done more miles in reverse than anyone of us has forward. Maybe Prime is where he got his sooper trucka liscence . -
Driving slow is really just you working more hours, my personal opinion is that if I'm driving an extra hour per day going slow to save fuel it better pay in translation to me earning at least an extra $20 for that extra hour of driving.
If it takes you averaging 50MPH vs 60MPH to earn an extra $5000 over a year of driving it's not really worth it for the amount of extra hours you put in. Whatever general averages you use to formulate what you're getting paid on those extra hours... it's just not a lot.
If it's you buying the fuel, then yes it's worth it no doubt.
As far as going slow and accidents, there's ton of info online about the risk.
If you're in Nebraska in straight wide open road with not much traffic, it's no big deal.
In traffic and curving roads etc.. yes it causes more risk there's no denying that.
Who cares who's at fault in an accident if someone is hurt or killed, it's just not worth it.
Going 15-20MPH under the speed limit generally just is a hazard.
Bad weather it's a different story sure, but the point is why be a hazard.. why take a chance?
It's not worth itLast edited: Aug 23, 2014
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If your point about being a hazard had any validity at all then Prime would be sued out of existence... we'd be in rear-end accidents all the time. In fact we're very rarely in a rear-end accident... its been over 5 years since the fleet slowed down. Besides if our company guys agree with you then they can go as fast as the truck is set for, as long as they meet the minimum fuel economy requirement. Evidently most of the would rather have the money, which can be had in the 55 to 58 mph range.
Don't get caught in the trap of thinking because burger flippers are paid hourly you should think of yourself as being paid hourly... its an apples to oranges comparison.Last edited: Aug 23, 2014
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HAS ANYONE CALLED YOUR SENATOR OR CONGRESSMAN ON SPEED LIMITER ISSUE?. IT'S NOT WRITTEN IN STONE YET, IT'S BEING SENT TO THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET FOR A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. THEN HAS TO HAVE SEVERAL MONTHS AS A PROPOSED RULE MAKING FOR COMMENTS. THEN HAS TO BE PASSED BY CONGRESS. ALSO ANOTHER BILL WE ALL NEED TO KEEP UP WITH IS THE INCREASE ON INSURANCE FROM THE CURRENT 750k TO SOMEWHERE AROUND 4 MILLION. THAT ILL KILL ALL BUT THE MEGA SELF INSURED CARRIERS AS MOST INSURANCE COMPANIES WON'T WRITE AN INSURANCE POLICY FOR THAT MUCH. BOYS AND GIRLS BETTER KEEP UP WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE INDUSTRY.
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When I think of Prime, I picture the CEO as DR. Evil sitting in his one way mirrored office perched high above in the building watching and laughing hourly as the 'drivers' come and go.
One biiiilllliiiiioonn dollars!!! Lol! -
Here's one such example of quoting both a cop and US Government researcher which said the very same things I was saying earlier:
"A couple of decades ago, Jim Gussler was pulled over while driving 60 mph in a 55-mph zone on Interstate 5 in California."Traffic was crazy and whizzing by me," he says. "It was the first time I'd been to California and the first time I'd encountered traffic like that."
He thought the officer was going to issue a ticket for driving 5 mph over the limit.
"Nope," Gussler says. "He politely explained that I was impeding traffic and needed to match the flow of traffic. He also explained that a slower vehicle was more dangerous than a speeding vehicle."
In 1964, a U.S. government researcher named David Solomon wrote a paper on the subject of speed and crashes. He found that those drivers going the median speed of all traffic -- not necessarily the speed limit -- had the lowest risk of collision. He also found that the crash risk increases more sharply at speeds below the average traffic flow than above!
That's a quote... not my point or opinion.
Driving at a speed vastly under the flow of traffic does makes the road less safe.
There is no debating that and safety is the most important thing.
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