No one has said its the insurance companies that are currently driving this. Go back and read post #235. The comment was that insurance companies might require them in the future.
Camera's are coming to a truck near you or Yours.
Discussion in 'Swift' started by Switches, Aug 26, 2014.
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Ahh yea " eventually" it says and my post said who are they gonna hit first ?
I am not really seeing the confusion you have there.
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You pointed out that big fleets have far more accidents than small fleets therefore insurance companies are more likely to go after the big fleets. But the big fleets don't use insurance companies. Therefore if insurance companies ever decide to require cameras, or offer discounts for using them, they will do so with smaller fleets rather than big fleets because smaller fleets are who the insurance companies insure.
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Okay , do you completely understand what "self-insured"means ?
Yes , it means they do not use a insurance co like you and I do for our personal vehicles . They use what is called a "risk retention group" so they could at any point in time go to the company and say hey this may be a good way to make drivers be more cautious as they are being watched.. -
A risk management group is not an insurance company. If risk management is what you meant, risk management is what you should have said.
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Hopefully that is how it would work.tangerineGT Thanks this. -
Also, that "privacy invasion" can go beyond the cab of the truck, where that slippery slope won't even be noticed by the idiots of the world until it's too late.
But like I had a judge tell me once, these large trucks are "dangerous". So, to uninformed morons any opposition of further tightening of motor carrier regulations, no matter how ridiculous or restrictive, could be construed as condoning outlaw behavior.Switches Thanks this. -
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I speak strictly for myself here, not for anyone else. I don't feel the need to spy on others, so I demand nothing less in return. So when the possibility exists that I may be the one getting spied on when I certainly never give any need for it, and given the fact that people sometimes watch from outside which in NO way whatsoever compares to the idea of a driver-facing camera, basically yes I call that an invasion of privacy.
I feel I do my job well, and certainly don't need to be monitored. Any driver that DOES need to be monitored in this way needs to be shown the door and replaced, not babysat.
If companies everywhere would worry more about what they pay their drivers and have expectations to match, the idea of driver-facing cameras, being absurd on its' face as it is, would also be totally unnecessary.bullhaulerswife, tangerineGT, Switches and 1 other person Thank this. -
It's a very slippery slope. One can argue that a driver driving a company truck. Has no expectation of privacy while drive the truck. Fine but when said driver stops for the night closes the window curtain. Then the driver should have an expectation of privacy. But the camera can see some what. in the back of sleeper. And what if the driver is changing clothes ......but I know the camera would NEVER come on when that happens.
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