heartbroken maneuver

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by shellyshell20, Jan 10, 2015.

  1. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Nott necessarily true.Some students advance faster then others.Alley dock was my weakest when I went to school.
     
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  3. Scott101

    Scott101 Medium Load Member

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    How are you doing the parallel? With reference points on the ground and trailer, or are you just "eyeballing it"?

    For most people, the parallel is harder then the offset. The offset is a parallel but with a much larger window to get it right.

    If you are using references on the trailer for the parallel, those references should work pretty close on the offset too. And if those references don't get you right in the hole on the first try, it should at least be close enough to where you can take a good long pullup at that point for an easy straight line back into the spot.
     
  4. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    How much longer is left of your school?Tell us exactly what you are doing during your skills testing.What exactly are you focusing on when you back?
     
  5. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    If a student can do all but one backing maneuver, then they have the ability to do all of them. The instructors are PAID to determine how best to bring the students' skill levels up to the minimum level for testing. Part of that job is to identify roadblocks that stand in the way of a student grasping a particular maneuver. The OP got suggestions and ideas here that she didn't get from her instructors. That tells me that they're not doing what they're paid to do. So why should anyone have to pay for something that they're not getting?
     
  6. GWIZ2260

    GWIZ2260 Light Load Member

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    well, have to say that the school will only train you on necessary skills to attain a CDL, they WILL NOT train you all of the aspects of controlling your rig... I am very new to trucking, and to say the least, I was very much enlightened to this fact by many on this site, as well as my new job. When I was done with my schooling, thought I had a good handle on things. Now that I have some time operating a big rig, I am still learning every day I am behind that wheel. Good luck with your endeavors, we want to help you to be successful, please share more information on what problems you may be having.
     
  7. G.Anthony

    G.Anthony Road Train Member

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    I have read the posts here, and all I can say is that the school did train you, but they cannot do it for you. It comes down to timing, which you had it for the other tests. You will get it sooner than you think. It may not be uncommon for a student not to catch on. You paid for the time allowed. If you need MORE time, then it would appear to be reasonable to pay for it. How much more I think is determined by the hourly wages of the instructor, fuel, insurance, and time spent behind the wheel. I cannot say for certain that I have ever heard of a school keeping someone PAST the contract time, for free. If you failed the test, it is NOT thier fault, you have to keep learning on how to do it, and it will cost extra for that time.



    Good luck
     
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  8. Scott101

    Scott101 Medium Load Member

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    Well, we don't know if these suggestions will help or not. And with all due respect to the OP, we are only hearing one side of the story.

    For all we know, they have given her rock-solid instruction that has worked for every other student. One thing I do know, it is odd that she has the parallel down but not the offset.
     
  9. Flybynight041

    Flybynight041 Medium Load Member

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    To the OP:

    Buy yourself a toy truck and practice the maneuvers. Your problem isn't lack of skills, but lack of perception. An issue that most new drivers have. A toy truck will give you a top-down of what the truck and trailer is doing in relation to the hole you're backing in. This in turn will give you some perception.

    Next, drop the "poor me" attitude and drop the racism. I guarantee you that you will not last long on the road with that mindset.
     
  10. GWIZ2260

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    I will just bring up my experience at my school. We had 3 people who graduated that session, 1 of them was definitely not very good but did pass as they had the ability to do all of these tasks to pass the state testing. This person could do the required tasks flawlessly for an hour, then for some reason, they couldn't do anything correctly. The schooling cannot guarantee that everyone will pass the state testing, they give you the instruction and the training, but they cannot take the state test for you. Granted this individual did pass on the 3rd try though, and did have to have "extra" paid sessions to perfect their respective problem areas. To suggest a school didn't do their part for an individual not achieving their CDL isn't accurate. Not everyone can operate a commercial vehicle safely. Their are some that this profession is not for them.
     
  11. shellyshell20

    shellyshell20 Bobtail Member

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    correct,,,, They teach me with the right or left offset (RIGHT) turn away from set-up 12 to 12 ,back up until you exposed half of your landing gear or you split the middle cone ,,,,then turn hard right until you cover target cone ,,,now if tractor/trailer is not straight turn hard left and pull up until tractor/trailer is now ,,straight line back until trailer edge is lined up with rear trailer tendems with the center cones or split in the middle Turn hard right until you exposed half of landing gear then turn left and pull forward until tractor/trailer is straight then back up into lane I do this but it is always too far or too close to cones and I cant figure out how to correct when its off
     
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