Can a company mandate using sleeper status during 10 Hour Break

Whether or not one must spend time in the sleeper berth isn't the question. The question is whether time spent in the sleeper berth need be logged accordingly. The answer, though painfully obvious, can be found in the guidance posted by Johan.

 

Sorry strongback, but you are wrong

 

Now wait a second. He was basically saying he doesn't/shouldn't have to log line 2 while on his 10 hour break, and it appears the law may no longer require it if he isn't teaming or 8/2 splitting according to post #78 by Ubu. His beef is with his company who is requiring it.

I'm going to look into that further because I may just quit worrying about line 2 myself if possible. My company has no such requirements and I don't ever team or split. Seems like when I was taught paper logging (prior to 2/27/12 it was...) it was still required to differentiate between off duty time and sleeper time and I've just always done it that way since.

 

My question in this is on the reset rules they just revised you had had to have 2 consecutive periods between 1 and 5 am I believe in a sleeper birth. If you just logged all time off duty how did you show those periods.


Course all this seems petty anyways how hard is it to log it as you do it.

 

No, he was saying he shouldn't have to log line 2 while in the sleeper berth. "A team driver may log as off duty up to 2 hours in the passenger seat of a moving vehicle immediately before or after an 8-hour period in the sleeper berth" does not in any way change the fact that "The driver’s record of duty status must accurately reflect the driver’s activities."

 

Not saying you're wrong or anything, but I am curious how you were able to extrapolate all of that from the one little part you bolded. Did the old regs prior to that revision specifically state something about needing to differentiate between off duty time and sleeper time?

 

the only thing elogs does is yell at you when your over 10/11/14
the lies or sins of omission continue
there isnt enough room on paper for how many times i pull the knobs
because my 62 year old kidneys need relief

 

Well, by my way of thinking there is no reason for it to be in the rules as it's obvious. The distinction between line 1 and line 2 is that one takes place in the berth and the other doesn't. It's like asking why all driving time needs to be logged on line 3. After all, on duty is on duty isn't it?

That's my way of thinking. However, this subject comes up often enough that there must be some reason it causes much confusion.

So my question would be, what is in the rules that would make someone think not logging sleeper berth when one is in the sleeper berth would be OK?