During your first year with Stevens Transport, how many States did you drive through?

Discussion in 'Stevens' started by Iceman1984, Aug 12, 2014.

  1. UKJ

    UKJ Heavy Load Member

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    I should clarify I can work for less initially(I have money in the bank from the oilfields), I know with no experience I can not earn top wages, but I don't plan on working for a bottom feeder very long other than to have them get my cdl and 3-6 months experience after that I can go to the oilfields or stay local and make real money. I don't know why anyone would waste away at 28 a mile indefinitely, It's not worth it. But if you enjoy working for cheap even with experience, then that's your own fault.
     
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  3. KMac

    KMac Road Train Member

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    I should clarify too, I don't work for 28 cents a mile
     
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  4. UKJ

    UKJ Heavy Load Member

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    I would hope not, but don't act like a lot of these companies offerings are extremely low whether new or experienced. I am sure you know, you are worth quite a bit of coin having as much experience as you and I see some of these companies offerings for experience and they are not impressive in the least.
     
  5. KMac

    KMac Road Train Member

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    A lot of these companies offer a way into the industry, as I said very early in this discussion, you are still a wannabee, you may or may not actually work in this industry, bit statistically, the odds are against you. However with your seeming ability to sling the crap you should fit in nicely at the Buffet line with all the ex SEALs who are now truck drivers.
     
  6. UKJ

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    Actually I start school in a few weeks, but you have to be a recruiter or something if you think .28 is acceptable. You don't have to be a part of an industry to see which companies offer good wages and which ones don't. It's pretty obvious Stevens is one of, if not the worst paying company in the industry unless you can name some who pay less.

    And no you won't see me at any buffet lines, I keep myself in great shape(You can't be a slob on a casing crew) and will always do so.
     
  7. KMac

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    When a guy bragging about making $1K a day is starting in truck driving school, I tend to not lend a lot of credence to his opinion. See even the average Oil field worked is making around $100K a year, now maybe you only worked 100 days a year, but who knows...

    See the main difference between us is that I actually know people on this forum, I talk to them, have dinner with them, went to high school with one, have beers at home with another, talk to others on the phones, see I have to keep it real or I will get called out on it.

    Also, as TLea stated early on, Money is not necessarily the deciding factor for everybody. I find it sad that the chase for a sheckel is what drives your life, that you are a slave to it. Money is a tool, nothing more, nothing less, Big House, Shiny Car, who cares? Does that impress you? I drive a 98 Saturn that has 128k miles, is paid off, has very little operational costs and gets me from point A to point B... It gets little use because I am driving an truck most of the year. That car is 17 years old and has clocked less that 10k a year. Why would I need a new car when this one serves its purpose? I am not a slave to a sheckel.

    I am on my way to Florida, haven't been there since the week before Christmas, since I left there last, I went to Texas, to California, to Texas, to Colorado, to Kansas, to California, to Iowa, to New York, to New Jersey, to Delaware, to Virginia, to Illinois, to Wyoming, to Nebraska, to Kansas and on my way back to Florida.

    That is what motivates me, I like to go back and forth across this country. I have been in all o the lower 48, I have been in 15 foreign countries, I have driven a truck in Europe, I have been places and experenced things that most never will. I have friends in many fields, some whose names you would know, others whose life stories would blow your mind. I have a friend, and author, who sold everything he had, bought a boat, and now lives in it bouncing around Florida and the Keys, makes a little cash on the side when he needs to doing odd jobs, and from royalties, but enjoys life with little expense. He is one of the happiest people I know, he is not a slave to the sheckel, and I guarantee his life stories are far more interesting than yours.

    People like you that think the measure of a person is how many sheckels they can gather are truly missing the big picture in life, its sad, but a choice you make, or as you would put it, its no ones fault but your own.

    Why people do what they do, is solely dependant on their own personal motivations, their own wants needs and desires, so for you to question, or look down on them is really more reflective of your self.

    Good Luck, I hope it works out for you
     
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  8. KMac

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    As was stated earlier... CPM is a part of, not the entire equation, there has to be miles to go long with it. Your myopic focus on CPM is not allowing you to see that what you are really interested in is the number on your settlement check.

    Think about it this way, one guy makes $20 per hour, works 10 hours a week, he makes $200, another makes $15 and works 20 hrs per week, he makes $300, which check is higher? $200 or $300? (Focus on the point)

    2000 miles x .40 or 3000 miles at .30?

    You seem to think miles are not a variable. You will learn, some companies are very short haul and do not rack up a lot of miles.

    Big picture... You are not in the industry, and you really do not yet understand what you are talking about.
     
  9. Emulsified

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    One of the most common complaints of drivers is the amount of time spent at shippers/receivers.
    You don't make money sitting (in most companies).
    So the longer the average haul, the better the money. (most of the time)
    Even Stevens pays differently to the drivers in the short haul divisions. They know you can't make money sitting around.
    If you're new, what is it you're wanting (and needing) most?
    Experience.
    One of the reasons other companies like drivers who started at Stevens is they KNOW the average driver does well over 100,000 miles per year. There are a lot of other companies where the driver sees less than 80,000 logged miles his first year.
    Now if you're looking for experience in a driver, where do YOU look first?
    After you've been driving a while, you develop your likes/dislikes, decide better what you want to do (OTR, local, regional...dry van, flatbed, reefer, etc) and gravitate that direction.
    But before you move around, most of those companies will want to know you can read a map, schedule your time, change lanes without creaming another driver and MOST IMPORTANT....you like the business well enough that you'll stay!
    More than 80% of people that get into driving will not be in it with ANY company, 2 years later.
    Get in, get your experience, learn what you want, then move on.
    And for a very few of us, we find Stevens a good home.
    It's not for everyone, but it's a GREAT start.
     
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  10. UKJ

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    No we got $30hr plus paid per ft of pipe we would trip down the whole and did on average 20,000ft, sometimes 40,000ft running production pipe You don't have to believe me I worked in the oilfield for many years and know which jobs pay the most money. You also may work 24-40hrs straight without sleep in -30 or colder weather, so it's not your typical 12hr a day oilfield job.

    You can find it sad that I expect to be paid for what I am worth. I went through my youth being told how great I was, "man, you're the best worker we've had in this position, etc", great to have you, so many guys are lazy, where were you when I was starting my business, etc but when it came down to paying me for my hard work and talents, no one was coughing up any cash, so at a certain point I decided that I will only work for companies that actually value me. The company I work at now is a production company I priced out the units costs per hour and demanded to be paid X, and they did it. They were shocked I actually knew how much per hour I am producing compared to being paid but they coughed it up and I’ll stick with them until another company offers more cash, they can pay more to get me to stay or I leave, I don't care either way. I have seen so many old timers throw their life away at some company just to get laid off, lose pensions & retirement, etc. So I have no loyalty to any company, only to money and the highest bidder wins. You'll be surprised how many young people also are the same way.

    I find it sad you guys are accepting low wages when you deserve better. Seems like a lot of you would be happy to work for $1.00hr and just work more hours to make up the difference, but that's not how I or anyone else I know operates :biggrin_25512: Work smart, not hard. I used to work hard and it's overrated.

    And in regards to your car, why would you want a new one? For fun & pleasure why not grab a porsche boxster, Mazda Miata, etc for your woman and a nice car, truck, motorcycle, boat, etc for yourself. You may not be a car buff though, maybe you like music instruments, hell sewing sweaters lol doesn't matter what it is. money buys happiness no matter half-brained psychologist says. let me know show you a struggling single mother working two jobs to keep afloat and let me show a single mother career minded woman pulling down a good salary and you tell me which one is happier.
     
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  11. UKJ

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    Fixed that for you in the bold. I can get experience as I drive, not going to work for free just to get experience though.
     
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