Steel haulers, basic question

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  1. Aggravated Owner

    Aggravated Owner Light Load Member

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    In my opinion, next to hauling Hazmat, steel seems, (at least to me) to come in 2nd or a 3rd place for the most dangerous material to haul. This discussion came up last weekend in Baton Rouge while I was at a Hazmat Response Team training seminar, (I'm a Hazmat tech with the Shreveport Fire Dept and on a State of La. Response team).

    My question to you all is this type of hauling lucrative for you all? I know Hazmat for the oil patch, "Was", or maybe still is for a few, a high paying gig. But, does the dangers of hauling steel it make it worth it? I've seen some pretty intense pics of cabs literally split in half from coils breaking free and rolling forward off the deck. Steel beams sliding forward or even off of flats and falling onto 4 wheelers, etc. Are there big differences in cpm between sheet/flat steel, coils, beams, tubes? I'm just curious strictly and I can promise you I'm not looking to get into that side of hauling. I'm happy with my belly dumps hauling rock and raw frac sand. :) But, the discussion of old war stories was brought up of incidents we've made over the years involving trucks hauling hazmat materials and I brought up steel hauling and if anyone had actually made an accident involving trucks hauling steel. Much to my surprise, out of 38 professional firefighters/medics and hazmat techs, no one had ever made a accident involving steel in the state of La. I'm sure it happens more than I think, but I was surprised and pleased that no one had.

    Is Steel where it's at for you all that haul it? I hope so because it seems like a dangerous product to push around the USA, for low cpm's.
     
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  3. barroll

    barroll Road Train Member

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    More often than not, those wrecks are caused by negligence, whether it be caused by inexperience or pure laziness. You can twist a trailer around the frame and a properly secured coil won't budge until the anchor points give way.

    Steel is just like any other commodity, rates will differ as the market dictates. On the same day you'll see a single coil listed at $1.50 a mile St Louis to Chicago, and 5 coils listed from Detroit to Indiana at $5 a mile.
     
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  4. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    around here, it don't pay. but, not much does.
     
  5. rank

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    I think the insurance companies agree with you. My broker tells me that rates are higher is you have steel on your list of commodities. And, believe it or not, hay also. One insurance company flat out refuses to insure it.
     
  6. Ruthless

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    Steel made a difference on my insurance, I don't haul a whole lot of it tho. Hay burns. Stray cigarette butt, crackle crackle woosh.
     
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  7. Aggravated Owner

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    Wow, this just doesn't make sense to me. I would have easily thought those of you hauling steel were making at least $2 cpm and up, period. And that's regardless of what the market is doing. It's no wonder this industry suffers like it does. Every one wants a truck, but no one wants to pay for the truck. And I agree, Insurance companies are flying truck companies into the ground as well. But, insurance is flying a lot of businesses into the ground.

    Hay bails, that's a surprise for me too. Didn't realize that was such a issue. It kills me that companies wanting products hauled still wanna pay O/O and carrier companies like it was still 1982.
    I'm just sorta floored on these steel cpm rates. Sheeze.
     
  8. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    That's driver error, amigo. Cant blame the shippers. Not only will drivers snap cheap freight up, they will brag about it. Mr Barroll is right however...sometimes, someone will need a load moved, and they throw stupid money down to get it moved.
     
  9. Cetane+

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    Easy there partner, I lost a barn with 5000 bales when we were at football practice 5 years ago. :biggrin_2553:
     
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  10. Ruthless

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    That wet hay can do it-friend of mine lost her barn couple years back from a leaky roof. Got her horses out in time but lost everything else in there.
     
  11. poppapump1332

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    Check out insurance for pulling a dump trailer
     
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