Another logging question

You aren't required to have a logbook on you of you aren't driving a CMV. So don't worry about that. If you wan to log it by the book than all hours you work will be on duty not driving

 

As far as I understand the issue, when you are operating a CMV, whether it's a car or a truck, you are on duty or driving. That all counts against your 60/70.

My places of employment have had strict rules regarding reporting of "other job" driving. Mostly, you can't do it.

Maybe if you have a day job running strictly 8 or 10 hours, you may work it out legally. Most trucking jobs run 12 - 14 hours per day so it won't work.

If DOT looks at job 1 hours and then how long it takes to get to job 2 and then hours working there, you may get busted for excessive hours.

 

Right or wrong, here's what I would do. Carry a paper loose leaf log showing past 7 days, when driving for Uber. When I go back on the road in the truck, trash the Uber logs and show all that time as off duty. I know many, many drivers that have other work and don't log it, such as cutting firewood to sell, doing lawn care, driving for another company on weekends, working at a gas station, remodeling homes, etc. and none of them show that time on the trucking company logs. I know drivers that have paper routes, have a milk route, work as police officers part time in small towns and have never, ever known even one person to log this stuff. The politicians don't want you to have ANY freedoms, so you just have to take it anyway.

 

No, you do NOT need a log book in your possession while driving for Uber (or while working any other job). Your car is not in excess of 10,000 pounds, and even if it IS, you aren't likely to be driving beyond the 100 air-mile radius.

HOWEVER, any time you spend working for Uber (or anywhere else) for pay needs to be logged on line 4, which means you cannot pick up extra work during a 10 hour break or 34 hour reset, and unless you will take 34 off prior to getting back into your rig, it cuts into your available 70 hours/8 day work week...which is why many carriers frown on 2nd jobs. Could you get away with not logging it? Sure...until you have an incident and the other person's lawyer starts digging only to find that 2nd job put you in violation of the HOS and your logs are technically falsified. When that happens, you'll be rooming with Bubba at the Gray-Bar Motel.

 

You dont have to follow any DOT HOS (aka logbook) in the car since you are under 10,001lbs or no?

 

Dohh.. we posted at the same time bulldog

 

Stop driving for UBER 2 days before you get into the truck. No worries

 

^^THIS^^

While you do not need a log book in your possession while you drive for Uber (Or work in any other capacity - say as a mechanic, stock broker etc, unless driving any commercial vehicle) you do need to log it (Or at least keep track of and then log it) in your log book as "On Duty" on those days you worked, to stay in compliance within Rule 395-2(9)

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/395.2

I suppose the next question would be if you can exceed 70 hrs of on duty time working in a non CMV capacity, the answer is Yes. However, your log must show the previous 7 days leading up to the time you go back on duty, driving, in a CMV. And, of course, this is where the HOS kicks in.

If you haven't had enough of a break to start with a clean slate (In other words, 34 hrs OFF consecutively prior to returning to work) be prepared to run off your recap or be delayed until you start off with a fresh clock.

 

I'm just arguing semantics here.,,, but technically he can work on his 10 hour break since he's logging line 4. Of course he will need to take a full 10 to have a full day's work available when he gets back on the truck. And if he wants his entire 70 than obviously he needs 34 off before returning.