Kevin Rutherfrauds $200000 Signature glider truck has complete engine failure!!!

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Bobby Barkert, Mar 7, 2015.

  1. ipogsd

    ipogsd Heavy Load Member

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    Due you guys believe oil wears out, or does it just get contaminated?

    What about using synthetic oil?
     
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  3. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    Back in the day when high detergent oils like mobli ! came out that was the exact scenario that would happen.

    People would run it in a car that had run conventional oil for the previous 80 thousand and all the deposits would break free and clog the oil pickup screen and starve the motor for oil.
     
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  4. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    While there can be some change in the base stock, it's not that the oil wears out, but the additive package is used up.
     
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  5. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    I was ignoring your question, because it's a bit loaded. In order to determine "if it works" we have to first define what it's purpose is. I would define that as does it add necessary protection of quantifiable value not obtainable with traditional filtering.

    The sales pitch is 3 microns vs. 25 microns, that's smaller therefore it must be far superior filtration, right ? I mean that's the sale so they want you to define "if it works" by if the filter removes finer particles left behind by the other filter ?

    The other reason I was ignoring your question is you are framing the argument to be that I am against the bypass filter, that it is snake oil. That is not my position. It's a filter, the oil runs through it (although it is not forced too, people must understand that). It does something, it's not an hd2500turbo or whatever that does nothing. It does do something. My point is just to bring up some questions I would have when considering a purchase of this or any other item. If you just purchase something when the first good sales job is presented to you, the first appeal that hits home with you, the first argument that makes sense to you, etc.... You are just a sitting duck for KR or anyone else.

    Does that answer "work" ?
     
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  6. sshewins

    sshewins Road Train Member

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    Oscar- How does not doing an overhead contribute to crud formation? Sounds plausible, but I'm not that familiar with it. Please explain.

    One thing I think most of us is overlooking, is that even with a bypass filter, the main is still supposed to be changed at the normal 12 to 15K mile interval, and the oil topped off. And IIRC, the bypass is changed around the 30K mark, and topped off. Like hammer pointed out, the oil doesn't wear out. The additives are used up.

    So the way I see it, you're getting extremely filtered oil. Every 12 to 15K, you're adding a fresh gallon of oil (not to mention the top offs if your truck uses a little) and main filter. Every 30K, you're adding one gallon plus whatever capacity of the bypass filter is. As long as you have the oil tested to verify it's condition, why couldn't you run it out to 60K or longer?

    On the other side of the coin, I understand why someone would be leary or skeptical of trying something new or different "That's the way I've always done it". I get it. For years, the rule was change the oil in your car every 3K miles. Today, with newer technology, (both in cars and oil) it's now every 5k. Almost doubling the interval. My wife's Toyota mini van goes every 10K on synthetic oil. Factory recommended.

    Either way, carry on.
     
  7. sshewins

    sshewins Road Train Member

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    Danny, didn't mean for it to seem loaded. Not my intention. My apologies.
     
  8. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    It just kind of painted me into a corner, the "does it work". I guess the honest answer to your question what consitutes evidence is when we start seeing trucks with bypass filters outlasting their non-bypassed equals by a significant amount, that would do it. For me, just saving a hundred bucks on oil every couple months is not enough. Maybe for some that is proof it's working.
     
  9. ipogsd

    ipogsd Heavy Load Member

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    Danny, seems to me you want others to "Do the hard work", where's you sense of adventure?
     
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  10. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    Over time the top end starts to tighten up, the engine then starts to not be as efficient. When they get to far out of wack it will start to push combustion gasses past the rings and into the oil.
     
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  11. double yellow

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    Danny likes to work smarter, not harder...
     
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