Confederate Flag controversy

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  1. Cybergal

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  3. truckermario

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    I wonder how they would feel if EVERYBODY voluntarily dropped graduation. Like that would happen. We teach these kids about the Constitution and expect them to uphold it, but schools are frequently showing their hypocrisies.
     
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    TM you hit that nail square on the head and drove it all the way in the wood with one swing. :yes2557: The old double standard eh??
     
  5. Money B

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    I left California I felt is was some kind of type of Hate when I moved down south and even on the C.B. all the Hate that goes on with that flag on a Big Truck maybe not you but some were just my experience
     
  6. crazy canuk

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    What would think about displaying a couple of big swastikas on the side of a truck. Would that be OK? The confederate flag is a very hateful symbol to a lot of people. To display it is like waving a red flag in the face of a bull. Go ahead and do it but don't object when you get skewered.I have never understood the attraction to this symbol because of what it represents. Like the swastika it should have been buried along with the cause it represented.
     
  7. truckermario

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    Germany has a law forbidding any references to the swaztika(despite the fact that it was a stolen pagan symbol) and open admiration for the Nazi party or Holocaust or denying that the Holocaust ever existed. And they're well within their rights to have such a law. No such law exists over here. They'd probably get charged with a hate crime, if they can get it to stick, if they displayed the swaztika for its political association. The confederate flag has no such political ties. The confederate flag represented the confederacy, the states that chose to break away. There were southern states that remained faithful to the union. Missouri was one of them. Kentucky was another. Yeah we could say the civil war was about slavery, but it was more convoluted than that. The fight against the Nazis wasn't like that. 99% of us could look ourselves in the mirror after saying "I know for 100% certainty that Hitler was an evil man." We can't say that about anybody associated with the civil war. For many, the confederate flag isn't about the war anymore. It's a symbol representing the southern states or even just the redneck way of life(whatever that may be). Remember when the cross was the symbol used in the name of the most atrocious acts against humanity? Does anybody flinch at the sight of the cross now?
     
  8. NCstroker

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    "what it represents".... Please tell me you actualy think the civil war was about slavery. I am disgusted by the fact that people are offened by the confederate flag simply from a LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. Even more sickened that scumbags like the KKK use the flag which in my opinion is a desecration of it.
     
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  9. Working Class Patriot

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    That's the distortion history that is taught in our schools about the Civil War. It was Economics folks, slavery was an ancillary issue that by the way was confronted by the early Republican party, the "Party of Lincoln".

    IMHO the greatest equalizer is EDUCATION and by education I don't mean the PC B.S. that is ram-rodded down our throats. I mean education that will get someone ahead in life, a career. Once someone achieves a certain status in life where they can afford to live in a nice neighborhood with great people and great schools, with great opportunities; there is no room for racism.
     
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  10. Cybergal

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    Confederate Flag Controversy

    by Borgna Brunner

    [​IMG] The "Southern Cross"​


    The Confederate battle flag, called the "Southern Cross" or the cross of St. Andrew, has been described variously as a proud emblem of Southern heritage and as a shameful reminder of slavery and segregation. In the past, several Southern states flew the Confederate battle flag along with the U.S. and state flags over their statehouses. Others incorporated the controversial symbol into the design of their state flags. The Confederate battle flag has also been appropriated by the Ku Klux Klan and other racist hate groups. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, more than 500 extremist groups use the Southern Cross as one of their symbols.
    http://www.infoplease.com/spot/confederate1.html

    (Interesting tidbit)
     
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  11. NCstroker

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    Well then lets just be fair if it is going to officialy be labled "a shameful reminder of slavery and segregation"

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    Above is the 35 star flag of the Union. Since the flags of the CSA are going to be branded as almost strictly representing slavery and segregation, let me tell you what the above flag represents for slavery.

    Abraham Lincoln, elected to office in 1860 tried to appeal to the southern states. During his inaugural address he declared he had no intention of ending slavery or repealing the fugitive slave law.

    The emancipation proclamation was not created until 2 years AFTER the war started. Even then it only outlawed slavery in confederate states. It did not include union border states like Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, and West Virginia. Or any southern state like Tennessee that the Union already occupied! Ending slavery was a Union TACTIC, not some noble gesture.

    In the south, only around 4% of southerners owned slaves. I can promise you the one and a half million men who fought and died for the confederacy did not do so just for the richest of southerners to own slaves.
     
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