I really want ALL truck drivers to read this!

Discussion in 'Truckers News' started by LogsRus, Jun 12, 2008.

  1. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Oh I understand the traffice issue's: I tell drivers if you are stopped in traffice you have an extra 2 hours on your 11 hour rule, but DOT says you can't drive passed the 14th hour (well I find that rule crazy myself).
    You should then call your dispatcher and ask them if they can adjust the time for you to deliver legal due to this traffic issue.

    Delivery/pickup times is not an option to run illegal! Your planners should be setting the runs up so it can be done legally and if you can't do it legally you should be telling them it can't be done.

    All the day to day life issue's I always tell drivers to plan extra time when possible. If something happens and you have to run over then log it as you did it and write down why. It should not be an every day exscuse:biggrin_25513:.
    Exactly why I couldn't be a truck driver! I can't handle the stress of traffic and chances of being late etc. I would suck at it! I know what it entails and that is my whole point! I am pretty smart at common sense on what the world brings you all. Hence the reason I take pride in my job and helping truckers understand their regulations.

    My issue's are with the drivers who are running 16 hours non stop, getting their next load and then taking a 10 hour break (not sure how many hours he just ran illegally by the time he got to a place to park for that 10).
    Wow you the good guy stopped for your 10 because you are doing the right thing he swung right in and took the load you could of had if he would not of ran illegal to get there. That's my point. The drivers running illegal are taking the loads from the drivers that are doing the right thing. Did you all ever think about you are taking miles from your fellow truckers when you are intentionally running illegal?


    I have two theories its a tough job but you have to do it with all intentions of running it legal!

    I would say you are the driver who only logs illegal if something happens. You are not out there running 16 - 34 hours non stop to get a 3,000.00 pay check.

    But either way if you are in an accident as the driver in the new clipping you can be held accountable in the same manner. That's all I am trying to get you all to understand.

    I have said over and over and over and over and so on! I understand your positions I don't need to drive a truck to understand! I believe "some" drivers when they talk and I listen pretty well!:biggrin_25514:

    I think we are all taking the meaning out of the original post though:biggrin_2556:

    We should be trying to teach the new drivers the right way, not teaching them how to end up in prison so they can come on the board and blame us for not telling him the right way:biggrin_25524:
     
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  3. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    I have a great IDEA! And I do chose to stay home with my kids! I can't leave them and I won't leave them.

    I took a job 21 years ago and never knew I would still love doing it today?
    I don't get paid what I want but I make due with the economy and stay away from illegal actions to make more money.

    You chose the career that you wanted and I appreciate you doing that.

    Don't hold it against me because I can understand without doing a job, however you can't seem to understand that side of me:biggrin_25512:
     
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  4. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    Logs, I know money is tight for you so I am gonna help you with some medical bills. Next time you need some dental work I got a drill, hammer and pliers. I know what it takes to be a dentist. I never been one, but I know what it takes, just like you know what it takes to drive a truck, so give me a call!:biggrin_25522:
     
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    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Hey Notarps, give Logs a break. I think we've all made our off topic remarks and need to get back to the original intent of the thread.

    She doesn't want any of us posting on the TR from jail like can happen if you get caught in a wreck with an illegal log.
     
  7. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    I am just being me. I know my job can do my job, people either like me or they don't. I don't second guess her job or try to claim I know how to do it. I like to rattle her, but she dishes it out but doesn't like to hear it back....
     
  8. Sandlapper

    Sandlapper Light Load Member

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    I think the log dept should focus on the dispatchers and customers as well because they share blame equally with the driver. I try to run 100% legal but when I was a lease driver my dispatcher would assign loads to me knowing full well they could not be done legally. If I were to refuse the load I would have to deadhead for free to the next pickup, not gonna happen. To add insult to injury I would be in the doghouse with dispatch and receive crappy non lucrative loads. I cant even count the number of times I have sat in excess of two hours waiting to be loaded or unloaded. It only takes thirty minutes to load/unload a trailer and maybe fifteen minutes to do paperwork. In New Mexico I waited fourteen hours past my appointment to get loaded. The delivery appointment could not be changed, I was late and broker and receiver were informed ahead of time but that fourteen hours can never be replaced, resulting in lost revenue for me. I hired a co-driver so I dont have issues with logs anymore, but a solo driver logging 100% legal could be out of business in a hurry if all shippers and receivers waste the driver's precious hours at the dock.
     
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  9. lilillill

    lilillill Sarcasm... it's not just for breakfast

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    Logs,

    I can appreciate what you're saying. If I should happen to wreck my truck and someone dies as a result, my fault or not, they will look at my logs with a fine tooth comb and do their damndest to send me to prison. However, does the fact that I may go to prison, prevent me from doing my job in as efficient a manner as possible? No, plain and simple, no.

    You could run over an old lady in a wheelchair on your way to the office... or run a redlight in a moment of inattentiveness and t-bone a schoolbus full of kids. The results will be the same:

    -They'll pull your cellphone records to see if you were talking on the phone.

    -They'll make you submit to a drug and alcohol test to see if maybe you were drinking or popping pills.

    -They'll ask your kids, "Was mommy doing her makeup in the mirror?"

    Anything they can, to nail you to the wall... and get money out of the insurance company. This is the sad fact of our litigous society, where "someone else" is always to blame for what happens to us, and that "someone else" is #### well gonna pay.

    We need to become responsible for our own actions and choices. You choose to drive on the highway alongside 80,000 lb trucks, then you have chosen to take part in a risky behavior that very well could end your life. Every day you wake up in the morning, involves risk. Why should anyone else pay for a choice you made?

    Our kids are taught that the first thing that should come out of their mouth when something goes wrong is, "I'm gonna sue!", and that insurance companies are a place to get FREE money. Maybe if we taught them that sometimes life ain't fair, then a visit to the ER at your local hospital wouldn't cost $8000.
     
  10. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    I smack my kids mouth when them words come out of it:biggrin_2556: Not a firm believe of law suits. Wish I was cause I had several and could use that money right now, however I didn't and won't be a "lawsuit" happy go lucky person. I hate courts
     
  11. rixcamp

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    Logsrus,, it's not that simple! You can say "no" to a load. But there comes a time in every truckers career when you get to shipper or receiver and guess what? Either the load isn't staged or they take 5 hours to load you. And you're at a receiver, and they take 5 or 6 hours to unload you. You've tried your hardest to plan your load and time appropriately. But befoe you know it, your 14hr day is GONE, security is at your door tellling you to get out of their place or you're going to be arrested for trespassing. This has happened to me several times, and I would imagine, to all truckers at one time or another. Shippers and receivers couldn't care less about you being out of hours. So what do you suggest we do? So the over-simplified "plan your trip" and refuse illegal loads does not always apply! The trucking industry is not always black and white when it comes to legalities! What can you offer in response to this, logsrus? Please, not meaning to be a smart aleck, just want to know. Thanks
     
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