What is the best choice?

Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by pawpaw, Jun 22, 2008.

  1. pawpaw

    pawpaw Medium Load Member

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    I am purposely leaving company names out of this mix because I do not want responses based on the companies involved. Both seem to have equally good and bad reputations on here. In all my research both come out fairly equal, hence my difficulty in deciding and why I am asking what you would do in my situation?

    Both companies offer the same out to home time ratio and with both companies I will probably stay out 4 weeks at a time (personal preference).

    On paper the pay from both companies will be about the same both on the company and owner op side.

    Both have apu's on the truck and run pretty much the same equipment.

    One is a refrigerated carrier the other dry van.

    The refrigerated carrier will primarily keep me in the west but could get me into the middle of the country from time to time while the dry van company will send me anywhere.

    The refrigerated company is a lease plan for owner ops while the dry van offers a purchase plan.

    The refrigerated wants about 30 days with a trainer (I have previous experience) while the dry van says two weeks max.

    The refrigerated company has no local terminal/drop yard while the dry van company has a drop yard within 75 miles of my house and a terminal within 6 hours to the west.

    The refrigerated company has limited inbound freight to my region and closest outbound freight is about 300 miles away. Dry van company has a couple of good inbound and a couple of good outbound customers in the area.

    The refrigerated company has less than 4,000 trucks while the dry van company has more than 4,000 trucks.

    The safety ratings of both companies are pretty much the same.

    Listed average miles per week and length of haul are similar between the two.

    Again, with all these items mentioned, which would you choose? If you want to include reasons why you would choose the one you would, that is fine.
     
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  3. Cerberus

    Cerberus Medium Load Member

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    personally i would go box. i have done refer and was not to keen on it. all the waiting at shippers/recievers and odd hours of the night delivery to grocery warehouses messing around with lumpers. and having that reefer unit behind the bunk at night trying to sleep takes some getting used to. at least in box you get the drop and hook on occassions.
     
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  4. dbook

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    Come on, tell us....who did you final choose?
     
  5. dilbert

    dilbert Bobtail Member

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    Being a still "wannabee" I can't speak directly to any of the questions related directly to trucking, but I'm curious as to why so many of the discussions about which company is better don't address many of the other factors I've been looking at. Such as:


    What's their health insurance plan look like? How much are the premiums? What kind of co-pay? Do I have to see doctors in a particular "network" or am I free to see who I want?


    What do they offer in the way of a retirement plan? Usually it's going to be a 401K. Do they offer a company match? If it's a match, how much? Do they have profit sharing?


    How about short and long term disability insurance? Life insurance? Most companies seem to offer a free plan, but it can range any where from 10K to one year's earnings.


    No offense to anyone, but most discussions seem to take a pretty short term view of their job hunting: What's the cpm and how's the TAH? Both of those are pretty important, but there's a lot of other aspects of what I'd consider a "good job".
     
  6. Little Red

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    Correct me if I am wrong. Are both of these companies a lease purchase plan? Or should I say buy here pay here...

    If they are I would not pick either one of them..
     
  7. pawpaw

    pawpaw Medium Load Member

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    I may, when I choose (which will be early this next week). Any of the companies I choose, if I say who it is, someone will rag about the stupid choice. When your choices are limited, as mine are, you kind of have to choose the lesser of two evils; kind of like the 2008 elections. That is why I am seeking this help in this manner; I don't want the name to be a hangup. Besides, the thing is, it is probably going to be a short visit as I have already picked a company I will go with once I get the necessary experience they require. So, I know going into this decision that it may be something where I need to suck it up for about a year and then can move to "the promised land." For that very reason I may not reveal publicly who I choose since management sometimes reads these boards and I wouldn't want them to know I was only planning to "visit" them and not make a career with them.
     
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  8. pawpaw

    pawpaw Medium Load Member

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    Actually, in my current situation, these are not as important for me. My wife's employer is paying our health insurance premiums and we already have good life policies. Because this is probably going to be a short haul tour, I will be building my own retirement fund (which I already have started years ago) while here.

    I have, on the other hand, obtained the information on their insurances and retirement and both are pretty much the same. Health is by the same carrier with similar benefits. I looked at that because if they overwhelming impress me while there, I could change my mind and stay. And one of our goals is to get where my wife is no longer working for this company and we would have to pick up what he is doing.
     
  9. pawpaw

    pawpaw Medium Load Member

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    One is a lease one is a purchase. Either one I can buy my own (which I have been approved for already; just need to get the down). I would only consider their plan if I could not get the down because in both situations you can refi away from their plan at any time. Refi's are easier to come by right now then initial finances because most of the lenders are looking for proven track history as a "1099 individual" before they will lend money. They are a little gun shy due to all the repos lately. One company wants you to have 2 years in a lease before they will finance and then they want between 15 and 20 percent down based on the credit score. Plus this may be a short visit and so I would not consider their plan unless I decided I was going to stay on with them for several years.

    Alot of people on here knock the lease plans but nowadays it is the only way most will be able to get financing to purchase a truck. They will have to be in a lease plan for a year or two before they will be able to qualify for a loan to purchase their own truck. That is too bad because most lease plans come with high payments and nothing at the end. Maybe that is why the IRS allows a complete write off of the lease payment where in a purchase you can only take interest and depreciation.
     
  10. RoadBoss

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    With fuel at record high prices and the economy in the crapper, why would you want to own a truck at this point and time? Don't you think you would be better off waiting it out by driving for a company and when things improve make a purchase? Look how many trucks are for sale, how many people have just parked them because it cost more than they are able to make to run them down the road. None of these companies care if you make it or not,they will just sell the truck to the next person in line after you ruin yourself financially. I understand your wish to run your own business , be your own boss but do the research owner operator have a high failure rate in good times, most of these lease purchase deals are doomed from the start because the contracts are written heavily in favor of the companies. Bottom line you are going to do what you want, but before you jump in take a long hard look at all the benifits and pitfalls before you commit. Best of luck!
     
  11. Bigray

    Bigray Road Train Member

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    whoever you do choose pls. let me know as i am always keeping my options open and your exp. w/ said co. would be of interest to me. and yes feel free to PM your decision and exp. TIA .. (THANKS IN ADVANCE)
     
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