New IC contract. What do you think?

Discussion in 'Schneider' started by sadwar, Aug 17, 2015.

  1. dieselfuelonly

    dieselfuelonly Road Train Member

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    That right there is what I was trying (and hopefully got across) in my posts about my issues with that new contractor. All that for $25. LOL
     
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  3. redoctober83

    redoctober83 Road Train Member

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    You are funny. My tactor is nothing like the schneider spec'd tractors. I brought my own truck with me over here. My avatar is of me pulling a reefer trailer from the carrier I just left. I did not say I owned a trailer, I said I know what my tractor costs me to operate per mile when I am with an mty trailer or bt. My tractor does a very nice job at getting a true 11.5mpg when I am bt and 10mpg pulling an emtpy trailer. My average cost per gallon over the past 90days has been $2.42. My truck costs me about 3cmp for maintenance and tires. I keep track of all my expenses and don't use atbs or whatever accounting firm l/o are reccommended to use. I run a profit and loss statement every week to see if I am hitting my goals, trending up or down, and where do I nned to make adjustments.

    You are right, I was wrong about one of my numbers, it should be 24.5cpm for running empty. My current 90 avarage is 8.3 mpg.

    Nope, I am not slow or an idiot. You can believe whatever you want all day long. You have no clue what market I am running in or how I operate my tractor.

    I don't believe that what my ICA states will be held up, I do believe what the contract states and how it will be executed once signed. Contract law is something I am very well versed in from my previous career. I haven't decided if I'll sign it yet, I am waiting to see if they send out a change.

    If you also notice I haven't called multiple names in my response, but hey, I am an adult business owner.
     
  4. TennMan

    TennMan Road Train Member

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    I will say that Schneider expects the bottom 30% to fail and the top 10% to out grow the choice program and leave. It's the 60 % in between they know will stay business as usual.

    It's that 60 % they know they can walk all over. It's the top 10% they figure they'll eventually lose so they don't try and keep.

    Of course this is my opinion based on my experience at Schneider.
     
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  5. redoctober83

    redoctober83 Road Train Member

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    On that point I can see what you mean. According to the contract he can bt home without doing the move and coem right back to that same customer to pick up his next trailer. It's only if he booked his next load 100 miles or more away would he have to worry about the fine. I probably would have pushed the point with the ICA. You are correct we could be taken advantage of.
     
  6. Dogals right foot

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    I know how much it costs me to operate my truck per mile emtpy with a trailer and bt.

    Your cost per mile doesn't change..BT or pulling a trailer.
    It's the cost to move your truck..24.5 cpm is low.
    There's people on here who own their trucks out right who aren't that low.
    But it doesn't really matter.

    I just get tired of guys coming on here throwing numbers that aren't realistic.
    Say what you will..the people who run a successful business KNOW what the freight is and what the runners can earn.
    I really like the ones who run out of an area that I frequent where there is NO WAY IN H E L L they are running for what they say.
    But again it doesn't matter..
    Why should I even care what anyone writes on here?
    I've got to let it go..

    I've run very successfully since I've been here..more than likely the dreaded contract wont impact me.
    I'm not very optimistic though..but that's my problem.

    All I do know for sure is I have outgrown the Choice program.
    It taught me what I need to know to take the step to being a business owner and what it entailed.
    It also taught me I don't have to put up with things that SNI makes me do.
    I'd rather deal with a cut throat broker than a Mega Carrier telling me they are entitled to make a profit off of me in ANYWAY they possibly can and I have to jump through certain hoops in order to operate under their authority.

    So with that I will say apologies to anyone I may have offended.
    Especially you RED..name calling was not called for.

    All I ever wanted to do was keep people thinking.
    I wish you all well.
     
  7. Tombstone

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    I dont know what other guys did but I already told my ICA that Im looking other opportunities and I will let him know as soon as I find a solution for my business.

    However my question is, do you guys getting paid for Schneider National propaganda against other contractors and drivers ?

    If yes, how much Schneider National pays for supporting company and blame other contractors and drivers for everything?

    And my final question is, how much you guys love Schneider ? It seems than even Schneider says you will not make any money working here, I guess you ready to say thats not a problem as long as Don Schneider is happy I don't need a money.
     
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  8. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    24.5 cpm :rolleyes: Seems someone forgot to figure a WAGE into the CPM or drives for FREE

    Your cost per mile doesn't change..BT or pulling a trailer Cost for FUEL drops per mile when bobtail same as empty trailer compared to a loaded trailer so it reflects on your CPM
     
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  9. mickeyrat

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    Well old Don would be pulling off a hellava feat. Hes been dead for 2 yrs now?
     
  10. Tombstone

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    You know what I meant. Plus, my head is not stuck up the company's butttt so I wouldnt know who is dead and how long they have been that way.
     
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  11. redoctober83

    redoctober83 Road Train Member

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    No worries, appology accepted.

    How would you calculate your running costs to move your truck empty?

    That $5,000 week was a one off so far, the loads lined up perfectly for me to make that. Most of the time I'll average about $1,800-$2,000 net. I am not trying to mislead anyone on here about what they can or can't do. It all depends on how hard you want to work and run your business.

    Yes there is a different in running my truck BT versus pulling an empty trailer. You are not trying to pull an extra 15,000lbs of wieght which means you use less fuel. It's just like I can see a measurable difference between the trailers that have the skirts and the ones that don't . I'll loose almost 0.5mpg for the trailers without the skirts. Now if schneider would put tails on the trailers that almost another 1mpg increase in fuel economy.

    My tractor was spec'd for optimal fuel economy from the gear ratios to the industry leading most energy effiicent supper singles. Schneiders tractors and trailers are lacking in many places for fuel economy. I'll probably this fall purchase the flow below system to help increase my fuel economy by another 1mpg. All of that makes a huge difference on how much fuel I use, which is the biggest expense we have out here.

    That is why I say it is possible to make those numbers but it depends on how you run your business. Some owners prefer to driver 75mph (when it's legal) and burn more fuel. I am happy running less then 2,800 miles a week (my goal is to keep my average at 2500 or less) and netting $1,800-2,000.

    I do appreciate your point of view on how your experience here has been and what you have seen. I am not niave enough to think that my way is the only way or even the right way. It's just what I have learned so far in my experience.

    That is why from how this contract is and how my business plan is set up, staying at schneider is still the best choice for me at this time. By the end of next year I am looking at having my own authority in place and running that way. This is juat a very good stepping stone.
     
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