2015 Freightliner Argosy

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  1. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    Correct.
     
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  3. daf105paccar

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    The EPA is already 45 y old.
    Same year as the clean air act was voted in by congress.
     
  4. Studebaker Hawk

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    Pete, Mack, and Autocar all make low cab forwards, almost never in the tractor configuration, which is the most logical if maneuverability is a key consideration. The Gardner trailers have an extremely deep pin setting(60"?) when coupled to a 57' help with backing in, and I suspect the California requirement of bridge law(41' from king pin to rear most axle). On a 57 the tail swing would get out of hand if the measurement were on a regular 36" setting. Point being it is a local phenomenon, certainly not enough for any manufacturer to get excited about meeting.
    Now if they go to twin 33' trailers like FedEX, UPS, YRC want to do....
    As far as Freightliner is concerned, the Argosy platform is beyond obsolete. They will still sell the platform(Century Class and Argosy) as long as there is an export market to accept such things. If someone wants a high cabover in this market in large quantities(5000+ per year) they might consider a new design, probably based on the Actros. But none of the manufacturers(Volvo, Paccar, or Daimler) seem to be interested.
     
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  5. mjd4277

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    I wouldn't mind having an Argosy cabover myself as I live in the New England region. A lot of loading docks(and some truck stops) weren't exactly designed for conventional tractors pulling a 53' trailer. An Argosy could get in and out of spots that the Volvo I currently drive(and the Cascadia I used to drive) couldn't. I even found a couple decent looking ones,albeit with between 650-773K miles on them. One with a Detroit Series 60 the other with a Caterpillar C-15(personally,based on my experience I'd take the Detroit).

    http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=6412683

    http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=5854977
     
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  6. JRut

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    Both those are nice! Look well maintained. I will have an argosy one day! With a small sleeper or day cab since I'm not OTR. Could definitely come in handy for those city docks
     
  7. mjd4277

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    Better jump on one while you can,I don't think they're gonna get any nicer or cheaper than these two!lol
    The one with the Detroit is a 10-speed that can be converted to a 13-speed if necessary while the Cat powered Argosy is a 9-speed.
     
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    Saw a 2014/2015 Argosy at the Pilot truck stop in Flatwoods,West Virginia last night pulling a step deck. This one was registered in Ontario,Canada(it seems that Canadian operators like Argosys as well-particularly midroof models with a stretch frame. Usually the other times I see Argosys are auto carriers(older models).
     
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    I'm confused as to why the Argosy would be obsolete if they went to 33' twin trailers. Seems to me that would be the best tractor for it. Would the conventionals still be able to legally pull those?
     
  11. Studebaker Hawk

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    Most of the Argosy was designed in 1996-7-8. The vendors that were contracted to supply the parts that are different than the Century class and Columbia are not going to produce a relatively small number of parts annually forever. The cost per part is high, profit low for Freightliner. They charge about 50% premium for the complete trucks sold in export markets ( About $200K US Dollars). Since they can't charge that money here it is not a profitable platform to invest any money improving.
    If the 33' foot trailers were to be a reality, you can pull them with any length tractor, with no over all length laws on the National Network.
    Personally, I think a cabover would be ideal in this application, but clearly I am in the minority.
     
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