Not coming to Schneider at this time.

The $25 spot fee applies, but I think the excessive box miles rate also applies. I have been told that, but I have not indepently verified it. Basically, excessive box mile rate is paid if you go 50+ miles out of route. $50 for 51 miles, and $100 for 101 miles.

 

All the 6 month company drivers waiting to get in the choice program, well choice may not be the word anymore. Get ready, they may take you at 3 months soon.

 

Well they need drivers who look at 75 cents a mile as double their pay.

 

Wow, things are getting that bad, huh?

 

I have compared the current contract side by side with the prior contract, highlighted all of the differences, and read them several times to make sure I understood everything. Yes, there are differences. There are parts that were added which didn't exist, parts that were modified, and parts that were deleted.

But the fact is that even by signing the agreement, we are not locked into anything. We are only bound by the provision which requires either party to give 15 days notice to terminate. So if the sky indeed is determined to be falling, through my own experience & not the wild speculation of others, then I can just leave. Simple as that.

And there is NOTHING in the new agreement that states, or even implies that we will be charged $250 for simply booking a load that is more than 100 miles away. It is that misinformation & gross misinterpretation that has all of this drama going. The $250 is specifically defined as a trailer repositioning fee, and it applies only when an IC decides to leave an empty trailer in the market they deliver freight to & acquire another empty trailer in a different market. It has NOTHING to do with the fact that you booked a load 100 miles away & chose to deadhead. Keep your empty from the last load if you're staying on duty, or drop it if you're going out of service & go back & get it when you return, and you can deadhead anywhere you choose, and you won't ever have to worry about a fee.

I routinely deadhead more than 100 miles. On my current load, I didn't pick up an empty at my last receiver. I bobtailed 95 miles home & took a 34 hour break. I then bobtailed 95 miles back to that receiver & picked up an empty, then deadheaded 185 miles to my next shipper. I didn't reposition a trailer. I continued where I left off. No $250 fee applies.

 

I think you've misread the agreement.

If you book a load 101 mi or more from the location of your last drop, box may assign a location to drop your current mt and a location to pickup a new mt. If you refuse, you may be charged $250 at your ICA's discretion.

Section 17, Exhibit B.

Per my ICA and my attorney.

 

I agree with you there. In my post it is word for word that last paragraph of section 17. It clearly states anything more then 100 miles they can charge you regardless if you take a trailer withyou or not. Reread it again. It's also that last sentence that makes it no longer about just going out of service, it's states even if you are in service.

Yes my ICA even just about 15 minutes ago told that's in there because of people who take a load to Phoenix and bobtail backto fontana instead of taking a load or empty trailer back. I understand that's what she has been told, but that's not how it's worded.

 

Yeah, this winter will be interesting to say the least. Having everyone bobtailing all over to get empties. Thought their first core value was SAFETY FIRST. Guess that doesn't apply to box planners!!!

 

The box planners are very well protected from our wrath!

 

Contractor’s Out-of-Service status shall begin and end and the Independent Contractor’s anticipated next available location.

Upon receiving Independent Contractor’s "Out-of-Service" notification, Carrier shall provide Independent Contractor with a Trailer Disposition Location at which Independent Contractor may drop off Carrier’s Trailer prior to Independent Contractor’s "Out of Service" time. To the extent Independent Contractor drives from the Last Shipment Completion Location (as defined below) to the identified Trailer Disposition Location before going Out-of-Service, Carrier shall provide Independent Contractor payment for such services (Spot Payment), in accordance with Exhibit B. Independent Contractor may, alternatively, elect not to drop the Trailer at the identified Trailer Disposition Location and instead drop the Trailer at the Last Shipment Completion Location; provided however that if Independent Contractor chooses this option, Independent Contractor agrees to return to the Last Shipment Completion Location (or to within 100 miles thereof) upon coming back into service or to pay Carrier the amount set forth in Exhibit B to cover Trailer repositioning costs (Repositioning Fee).

In any situation where Independent Contractor is in possession of Carrier’s Trailer at the completion of a Shipment or has dropped the Trailer at the point designated with the Shipment or as required by the customer, this shall be referenced as the Last Shipment Completion Location. If Independent Contractor’s next-selected Shipment originates from a point more than 100 miles from the from the Last Shipment Completion Location the parties agree that Carrier will experience a cost burden as a result of the Trailer repositioning or availability (as determined by the Carrier) needed to facilitate a Trailer for Independent Contractor’s selected Shipment and, further, that Independent Contractor will, in Carrier’s discretion, share in assuming such cost burden. To provide predictability, and given the uncertainty and variation in the costs which may be incurred in each instance of required Trailer repositioning, Independent Contractor and Carrier agree that the cost of the Repositioning Fee to be charged to Independent Contract shall be that amount set forth in Exhibit B, regardless of the actual cost incurred by Carrier (which may be more or less than the amount set forth in Exhibit B). To avoid paying the Repositioning Fee, Independent Contractor may choose to return to a location within 100 miles of the Last Shipment Completion Location for Trailer acquisition. The above provisions regarding Trailer acquisition and disposition are applicable both when Independent Contractor is in Service and when Independent Contractor goes in and out of Service.