Getting started no experience questions

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by charged, Jul 17, 2008.

  1. charged

    charged Bobtail Member

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    Feel free to quit your job then.
     
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  3. Biker

    Biker Medium Load Member

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    No need. You'll kill yourself or someone else first... I just hope it isn't me that ends up dead....
     
  4. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    The load weighs 40.000 lbs. It is stacked sheet steel. Not a coil, but can cut the cab in half. How are you going to secure? How many chains or will you use straps? How will you attach the chains or straps? What will keep it from coming forward if it has chains or straps on it? Is the load more apt to come forward, the side or off the back? These are just simple questions. Flatbedding gets a lot more complicated. You have to figure out how to secure each load. You won't haul coils, but what is shotgun? What is suicide? What is a smoke tarp? When do you need a smoketarp?
    How far apart do you put the chains or straps? Can you criss cross chains? What keeps pallets from coming forward? These have been easy questions. Let me know when you want me to ask you some challenging questions....
     
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  5. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    Nothing seems hard till someone dies and you get charged with not properly securing your load.
     
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  6. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    Stay away from flats and tankers. You have a slight better chance of not killing yourself or someone else with a box with no training, but even then you are not concerned with the welfare of others. Having money and being able to buy a truck does not mean you should be out here. We all are out here to make money, but the day I don't think about the welfare of others is the day I won't turn the key. That is one reason why I prefer to load suicide. It is my job to make sure the load stays where I put it, but if I were to lose it I rather it come thru the cab and kill me than an innocent person or kid passing me on the side.
     
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  7. charged

    charged Bobtail Member

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    I have endorsements for tankers and hazmat, but since I do know someone who does flatbed that is why I'd rather do that. Any questions I have I can ask him.

    The main problem I have is he is only getting around $2 per mile from what I can figure. He gets his loads from brokers and online. Before I start into this I'd like to see what is really available as far as money. Do most just call up manufacturers to get better paying jobs?
     
  8. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    The question isn't the endorsements. The problem we have been trying to explain is no expierience. Flatbedding is dangerous to the trained driver. Someone who has a CDL and has no exp needs load securement training. Not a friend to call to ask how to secure the load. I have friends who have medical degree's, but I am not about to take out my liver and call and ask how if I get in a bind...:biggrin_2554:
     
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  9. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    Your biggest concern should be being safe and not killing someone. That loser of a trainer that you refuse to do knows how to load and secure. All of us started from scratch and several of us have went thru it a few times because we came off the road and had no recent exp. Notice we had exp, but not recent? Why should you just be able to jump out here and know nothing about load securement?
     
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  10. charged

    charged Bobtail Member

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    If the government thinks it is safe for me to drive a truck, the insurance company thinks it is safe for me to drive a truck and the shipper lets me take their load then why not?

    It isn't my fault you had to start from scratch.

    When did I say I know nothing about securing a load? I know a little, and that is a start.
     
  11. Biker

    Biker Medium Load Member

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    A smart driver knows their limits and WANTS to learn. A soon to be dead driver thinks they already know enough to make it with no training.

    A smart driver also listens to experienced drivers and rethinks their plan if it's dangerous.
     
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