So you want to hot-shot? (Will be updated/edited frequently)

Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by HOTSHOTTER432, Apr 29, 2015.

  1. d o g

    d o g Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    You're not eligible for farm plates just because you live on somebody's ranch. Those plates are specifically for use by farm or ranch owners actually engaged in production agriculture:

    https://www.txdps.state.tx.us/cve/Farm.htm

    Additionally, you now have to have your Ag/Timber Tax Exemption number from the Comptroller's Office when you go to the County Tax-Assessor's Office to register. Violations involved with those Ag/Timber numbers can be prosecuted as second degree felonies now if they really want to.

    What you're trying to do is circumvent the law to give you a competitive advantage over those that play by the rules. Even if you could get by with it, it's not worth it for the few bucks you could save.
     
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  3. Andrew Woods

    Andrew Woods Light Load Member

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    I'm not trying to bypass the law in any way....? That's why I am asking on here to find out what I need to do. I will be using all of my equipment on my rented part of the ranch as well for agriculture use. I understand that I may not still be able to get farm tags because I don't "own" the place. That's what I have to find out from the state of Texas though. I'm not trying to have any competitive edge over anyone, simply trying to find out what would be the best, and most cost efficient, route for me to go to be able to fully utilize my equipment and be legal while doing so. I came here for help not criticism......
     
  4. d o g

    d o g Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I'm not just criticizing, I'm trying to help you. I'm just going by what you stated that you were interested in doing and telling you that's not the way to do it because it isn't legal.

    You want to use farm plates to haul the equipment you use in a commercial business. Additionally, you want to haul for hire with the same equipment using farm plates. Isn't that what you stated that you are interested in doing? All of that is illegal.
     
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  5. Andrew Woods

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    If you re read The last part in my original post, you will see that I was verifying that I need everything still regardless of having farm plates or not.
     
  6. d o g

    d o g Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Yes, you'll still need all of that if you choose to haul for hire and do it legally. Having the farm plates while hauling for hire, though, is just asking for trouble. You would probably get by with using them when you are just hauling your tractor and shredder, even though it is technically illegal because you are using that equipment for commercial purposes.

    You might could even get by with the farm plates if you were hauling hay for hire, or hauling some other ag commodity for hire. But, as soon as you put on a few joints of drill pipe going back into Houston for inspection, or some casing tools going to a location, you're going to have a lot of trouble. Those are the higher-valued things to haul in your area with hotshot equipment, so why make it difficult to haul them?

    You just can't avoid the License and Weight guys in your area - they're everywhere. You're going to have to explain yourself on the side of the road frequently, and you're going to have to lie to get by with using the farm plates. Only you can determine whether or not that's worth it to you, but you won't get by with it at all with the oilfield stuff.

    Having the numbers on your truck in conjunction with the farm plates is just asking for trouble. It's just like having a big target on you. Expect to have your tanks stuck on a regular basis because when they see you running farm plates, they're also going to assume that you're using farm diesel, too. Basically, you can expect the farm plates to make your life miserable just to save a few dollars.

    Good luck with whatever you decide.
     
  7. Andrew Woods

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    That is the kind of information I need. Thank you. My next issue is the fact that my truck is my daily driver. If I have DOT numbers on the side how is that going to affect that?
     
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    Farm plates wouldn't work. You'll need apportioned license plates if you plan on hauling across state lines moving freight for hire.

    I'll try to get back with you in a little bit and answer your other questions. Real busy here right now booking loads.
     
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  9. d o g

    d o g Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I can't answer that question, but there are some guys here who do the same thing and they'll be able to give you some advice on that. flatbedcarrier and some of these other guys that deal with this daily can really help you out, so you're in good hands.
     
  10. Andrew Woods

    Andrew Woods Light Load Member

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    Good deal, I was hopin they would chime in.
     
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  11. truckon

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    Just keep your log book in the truck showing off duty while your using it for personal use and you will be fine.
     
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