Picking my own freight baby! My journey to & of being on Schneider choice, the Adventure & Numbers!
Discussion in 'Schneider' started by freightwipper, Jun 1, 2015.
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Either you didn't fully read my post or you're really bad at math.
I'll make it easy for the kiddies reading at home and do a one day example.
How many hours can we drive once we start our clock? 11 hours.
Say both drivers are running at $1.50
Driver A, averages 50 MPH, gets 9 MPG and drives 11 hours. 550 miles.
Driver B, averages 60 MPH, gets 7 MPG and drives 11 hours. 660 miles.
Fuel is $2 a gallon.
Which driver earned more money net at the end of the day?
Driver A: 550 x $1.50 = $825
Fuel costs 550 ÷ 9 MPG x $2 = $122
Net after fuel = $703
Driver B: 660 x $1.50 = $990
Fuel costs 660 ÷ 7 MPG x $2 = $189
Net after fuel = $801
By going faster you can book and move freight which will more than cover the extra fuel costs.
The only scenario/operation that it does NOT pay to go faster is if you're on a dedicated account where the amount of revenue/miles you can earn/pull is capped per week.
You could even make a case if you rely on a dispatcher. There's no telling if they will book loads for you that will maximize your hours/availability.. so it might be better off to not risk it and try to save fuel for the week vs risking you might have to sit.
However here you don't ever have to sit if you don't want to being YOU are in control.
I was pointing out going slow and better mpgs don't always pay off and the math proves that case very well.Dominick253 and FallingLeaf Thank this. -
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I gave my mathematical examples why don't you being you've done the "comparisons"?
Mathematically it just doesn't work to your view running at the same rate unless both drivers are doing to same amount of miles/revenue.
The more revenue earned by going faster more than makes up for the loss in mpgs.
Bare in mind this is coming from someone who hasnt broke 3000 miles in a week since I've been here lol but that's a different story.Dominick253 Thanks this. -
I'll take it further.. say the slower driver gets an extra .10 a mile vs the faster driver.
Driver A $1.50 all miles
Driver B $1.40 all miles
Driver A, averages 50 MPH, gets 9 MPG and drives 11 hours. 550 miles.
Driver B, averages 60 MPH, gets 7 MPG and drives 11 hours. 660 miles.
Fuel is $2 a gallon.
Driver A: 550 x $1.50 = $825
Fuel costs 550 ÷ 9 MPG x $2 = $122
Net after fuel = $703
Driver B: 660 x $1.40 = $924
Fuel costs 660 ÷ 7 MPG x $2 = $189
Net after fuel = $735
Thats right.. the driver that got 2 MPGs more and got .10 more per mile earned less for day the than the faster driver lol.T_TRUCKER. Thanks this. -
I am sure that somebody here will say they run 11 hours per day. I can say that for myself personally, it is very rare that I run that many hours. I learned that I can run good paying freight, run about 9 hours a day, and virtually never have to reset. This means shorter loads (that pay better), and combined with running 57mph, I net significantly better.
Maintenance costs also go up when you run faster. Maintenance intervals increase when you are turning more miles. A little bit here and there adds up in the course of a year.
Also, if you are doing a lease purchase and running 11 hours a day and running fast, you best be committed to paying that truck off because the lease penalty for going over mileage is going to hit a lease purchase driver hard.
A driver running 11 hours a day, every day, resetting, then repeating this 11 hour a day ritual, will likely earn higher settlements. I say likely because to run that many hours a day, you are very likely not running at the best possible rates, you are more likely running lower rates and long distances. But you lose that money long term in small item maintenance costs, and ultimately, large items (engine).
I never believed it either, until I bought my current truck, buckled down, and held myself to a slower speed.Dominick253, Home_on_wheels, drvrtech77 and 1 other person Thank this. -
You could use endless mathematical examples and in each the faster driver hauling more freight will always earn more than the slower driver hauling less freight. (Baring both are running at similar rates)
Still waiting for anybody here to show a mathematical way to disprove that case.
It wasn't happened because it's not possible.
Don't like 11 hour day?
Okay how about two different drivers booking freight and trip planning based on working a full week aiming to drive 8 hours a day.
Driver A books freight aiming at averaging 50 mph.
Driver B books freight aiming at averaging 60 mph.
Just for the heck of it I'll give the slower driver an extra .10 a mile just to further prove my case.
Driver A: average speed of 50 MPH, fuel 9 MPG, drives 8 hours a day
Driver B: average speed of 60 MPH, fuel 7 MPG, drives 8 hours a day
Driver A at $1.50 all miles ran 2800 miles.
Driver B at $1.40 all miles ran 3360 miles.
At $2 a gallon.. fuel costs
Driver A: $622
Driver B: $960
Driver A revenue $4200 - $622 in fuel = $3578
Driver B revenue $4704 - $960 in fuel = $3744
The driver running at .10 a mile cheaper and getting 2 MPG LESS still profits more at the end of the week... all by simply pulling more freight in the same amount of time.
So I don't wanna hear going slower is better BS.
It is better sometimes but in a lot of operations it's not and math proves that case, still waiting for it to be disproven by math.
In the example I gave above, if both drivers ran at the same rate the faster driver would have earn $502 more than the slower driver!
$500 just by going faster and pulling more freight in the same amount of driving time.. still giving up 2 mpg!
I mean cmon man!
Now if you wanna bring up how driving 11 hours a day is not the most profitable of operations you could choose... i agree dude.
You know what i do? 2-3-4 loads a day.
2200-2800 miles a week working 7 days.
Back when times were good I aimed for 350 miles a day at $2 all miles which was NOT difficult at all. I knew if i ran at those numbers I'd clear around $3000 to me after costs including that $1100 in fixed costs.
Also because I spent soo much time at customers and didn't run a lot of hours off my 70 I would always have a good amount of hours to work with and not having to worry about running low on hours.
Plus doing the short runs means less miles on the truck which means less maintenance and also the truck holds it value more
Win win win all the way around.
That is until freight tanked and now I'm being forced to run longer loads because theres less loads overall to play "connect the loads" with.
I'm not disagreeing with you on shorter runs are better... my operation is based around that.
Picking and choosing an operation to run is a different topic.
All I was intending to do was disprove the narrative that going slow always means you'll earn more. I see it posted all the time and it simply is not true.
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