New user here, not new to trucking. I notice no jobs available at that website referred to here for good jobs. That is because the good jobs are already taken. I have been driving since 1988 and nothing about recruiting has really changed for the better. Actually it has become worse as the years roll by. Why? We know the reasons for the deceptive practice, instead the real question is how come it continues and why are truckers allowing it to, is what needs to be addressed.
We all know that drivers aren't going to group together to make conditions better, and I just don't understand why we don't try to end the turmoil and headaches that have ruined this industry.
The more I read on here the less likely it seems to find a job that is tolerable.
I have been looking for work since May of this year. All I seem to get calling are the companies that cause the problems associated with many drivers here.
Unlike quite a few here, My MVR and all other tests are spotless. I've pulled vans, reefers, lowboys, doubles & containers. 48 state and Canada in all weather conditions. Been a company driver as well as an O/O. Yet no luck in finding a company that doesn't seem to have tons of driver issues or equipment problems.
I realize that the economy is putting a hurting on all drivers and the sitting around for free is not my cup of tea. Because of the deceptive recruiting practices, i feel that there is not much hope in locating a decent job in these present conditions.
As read in some other post on here ... I earn my pay, not the ability for some quality family time. I'm not a convict and seeing my family should not be regarded as a treat for working like a dog.
Good companies???????
Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by 074344, Jul 22, 2008.
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I have no idea what these drivers pay for their coverage. Maybe we will get a few to respond. I highly doubt it but you never know.
Benefits can be a wide variety of items. The obvious ones are medical, dental, optical insurance and retirement. Paid vacations, paid holidays, paid sick days, paid funeral leave and paid jury duty are others. Still, long/short term disabilty can be looked at as a benefit.
The problem that I see with all health care and retirement coverage is the cost to the employee. The driver may make a decent salary on the road, but after the cost to the employee for those benefits, how much do they have left over to put into the bank. *Please don't forget about road expenses*. I know companies pay vacation but how much and for how long. Years of service usually determine how much time but what is the pay for that time. Is it a flat rate or is it 1 5/2 of your yearly gross (the only true way to be paid).
As for holidays, sick, funeral and jury service, I don't know of too many OTR companies who are doing this. Holiday's excluded. (How many holidays do you get paid for and how much)? It would be great if drivers could tell us which companies apply this practice. I might be going out on a limb here but I would wager a weeks pay that there is no OTR company that does this. At least not at a rate that pays well. Any takers? Come on folks, tell us like it is!
Your gross/net pay for the year so far looks excellent. I have read that you are home almost every night/weekend. I wonder how many OTR drivers can claim that type of pay? If they can match or beat it, road expenses now come into play.
I am sure there are more benefits that I missed. Lets just sit back and see the responces to these answers. I don't think we are going to see a lot. I look forward to more challenges from you.
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Nice we must be on at the same time. I agree with you that most or these otr companies don't pay there drivers what they should. We pay 220.00 per month for our benefists. That includes our family. This covers medical, dental, optical. Our retirement is a company match up to 6% of gross income. Not to bad. We do get paid for other benefits like sick vacation and jury. We get our normal hourly rate for that time. It's not the best but it is better than most of em. I don't think you are going to here from any otr drivers with the questions you asked. Sorry but no bet from me. Ithought of something you didn't. How about the catch phrases that companies use to get drivers. I read them and just laugh. How can these people fall for these tricks. Here are some that I have read. Bonus, sign on, accesorial, longevity pay and pay for cities where nobody wants to go. this should be an easy challenge.
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I know it has only been one day but still no responces from others. I guess I should give it a few more days. I don't think I will hear from many people though.
You have pretty respectable benefits as far as I am concerned. I don't think there are any OTR companies that pay like that. You might have just ended any chance of a responce to this post.
As for your challenge, I have to agree. Lets look at each one. These are my opinions only so take them for what you will.
Bonuses? Any company, and I do mean any, that has to offer a driver a sign on bonus to come to work for them should at least cause a little concern to the respective driver. I think Helen Keller could see the problem here. If a company was a "good company", there should be no reason that they would need to do this. They should have drivers lined up to work for them. Their turnover rate should be little to none. Remember, good company? Unfortunately, it's just the opposite. Companies offer these bonuses to try to attract drivers because there are so many leaving the company. They can't hire fast enough so the bonus, to the driver, looks like a quick buck. The cycle continues!
Accesorial pay? I have to be honest. I don't know what your talking about. It just sounds like something that a driver has to pay for to remain with a company. Doesn't sound like there will be any type of reimbursement to the driver. If I am wrong, please correct me.
Longevity pay? Are you kidding me? What do they mean by this? You mean to tell me that if a driver puts up with the companies BS for so long, they will throw extra money his way? Is this a yearly occurrence or on a graduating scale?
Maybe I have this wrong. Where I work, the longer that you are with a company, the more money you will receive. It is actually built into the language of the agreement. Every year you are there you get a raise. Isn't that the way it should work for all truckers?
As for pay for cities that you don't want to go to. I must admit I have no experience there. If the company knows, for whatever reason, drivers do not like to go to a particular city, then I have no problem with different pay. Just be sure that you make A LOT MORE for your troubles. By a lot, I mean at least $200.00 extra per day. Look, you accepted loads that others did not want. Get paid well for your time. If others complain, tell them to step up to the plate and do what you did.
I am sure you have more but it is time for a shower and then bedtime.
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074344 what is a good average weekly take home for you. I assume you are home every night like I am. I am not union but I know you are. What is the greatest benefit you recieve from being in a union. -
My friend who has been driving for the past 25 years (including several as o/o) knows a few; ()= best opportunity
Walmart (very long interview process)
Kenan Advantage Group (company and o/o's)
Crete (company)
Pat Salmon and Sons
For you newbie's he said pick one and stay with that company for 1-3 years depending on your next companies requirements.
I realize I am not a truck driver; however, I know several and all have said no company is perfect but in the end it all depends on your needs (regional, otr, home time programs) and where you are located. Example: Florida is one way state so picking a company can be challenging whereas someone who lives in California has more choices.
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The greatest benefit from being in the union are a guaranteed wage increase every year, free medical for myself and family, paid leave (sick, vacation, funeral, jury, retirement and AD&D). A daily guarantee for pay per day. We also get a boot allowance ($150.00 per year). Out of town expenses (food, hotel etc) are paid for by the company. We also have the luxury of knowing that we can't be fired because someone in management doesn't like us. We have proceedures in place such as a grievance practice that gives us a voice against unfair practices. Plus a lot more. If there are qusetions you have in regards to additional benefits, feel free to ask.
I think this thread is about done. There have been no real resonces to the questions asked. I guess it just goes to show how well these drivers are treated by their companies. What a shame that so many find this acceptable to them.
Good companies. I don't think so.
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To piggyback off of this post I would also point out that in the case of hourly paid employess it is very easy to "milk" the clock for extra pay. I know some local drivers at my company that were doing this and got caught. They would make their delivery and then park in the lot and take a nap. When dispatch would call them they would claim they were still in the dock being unloaded. My carrier discontinued paying hourly altogether and went with a progressive mileage scale to give the drivers incentive to hustle to make more money. It is sad but there will always be people who try to take advantage of their employers wether it be out right theft or "milking the clock." -
Read my experience on the Schneider Forum page 25 I think - under HighMilerNoAccidents!:
I just started to look, was offered what seemed a decent job with my credentials similar to yours - and after wasting a week and a half I pulled out after the job offer started changing - and of course not for the better..=*^)
You write :" Because of the deceptive recruiting practices, i feel that there is not much hope in locating a decent job in these present conditions."
After my recent experience with Schneider I agree totally with you...
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