Truck Driver Killed by his load 4-22-16

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  1. TripleSix

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    If anyone comes up with an idea for straps, lemme know.
     
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  3. Highway Sailor

    Highway Sailor Road Train Member

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    I was thinking about using a shackle , but it would have to be large for a 4" strap to lay flat in it. It could work for chain.
     
  4. Ozdriver

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    The guy that invented the Load Choker is a friend of mine, in the video you can see his green cabover KW which is powered by a CAT 3408, same as mine. He went over to the Louisville truck show a couple of years ago to promote it, don't know if anything came of it but he went over to England and it's sold there.
    He's a smart guy, here's a reddit link from when he re-framed his cabover. He painted it green after he did the frame rails.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolled...assive_jobreframe_railing_a_cabover_kenworth/
     
  5. MACK E-6

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    You called?:)

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  6. MACK E-6

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    Interesting discussion.

    @Audiomaker, let me ask you this.

    Let's assume you're able to produce this headboard you have in mind that's able to stop a coil, and install on on your trailer.

    Are you prepared to trust your life to this device?

    I certainly wouldn't. I'm more partial to the idea I had of welding D-rings to the frame rails on either side of where the coil would sit, and running 1/2" or bigger chains through those and over the coil from front to back.

    That trailer with the built-cradle is obviously the safest way, but from the looks of it the bigger coils may likely become permit loads with that.

    Reading the last few pages, the attitudes your getting stem from a fear of being forceably dumbed down to other peoples' lowest common denominator through legislation. As a gun owner, I for one can certainly understand that.

    A mistake that in the best case leads to only the fatality of the driver is of course never a good thing, but I like to think that's why sites such as ours are here to begin with, and that is to educate people BEFORE bad habits turn into tragedies.
     
  7. MJ1657

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    I'll do that.
     
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  8. Stang

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    You could take a pair of Crosby S-253 web shackles and connect them with a S-256 link plate. I think the 70,000 pound WLL and 700 dollar price tag is a bit much for what we are talking about.

    A cheaper option would be a pair of web shackles like this. You could use a longer pin to connect them. AW Direct or someone like them could probably get you the properly rated pin. I swear I have seen some with an angle in them that would allow two shackles to be put together without causing different angles in the straps, but I cant find them at the moment.
     
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  9. TripleSix

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    Unnecessary. I am a happy camper. Reverend Bulldog made it all worthwhile.
     
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  10. cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

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    Not a bad idea. @TripleSix
    Take 2 of these
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    And put them together with one of these
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    Kinda bulky but it will still work
     
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  11. Audiomaker

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    Well... when you suggest a HD headboard for pipe that might slide out of bundle and everyone paying attention goes "Do you really think that's going to stop a coil that will take down a tree?".

    Then you think to yourself... "Well, that's not what I was thinking, but I guess it would do *something* if placed in front of a coil that was already secured properly....especially if it's right up against the coil, and everyone basically goes "Why suggest a headboard instead of properly securing your load?!", and I think "Hmm...where did that come from?"

    I mean, it's not like it takes a genius to figure this out. It's just basic physics, and those are that *if* the coil *can* break it's securements, then *anything* solid in front of *will* absorb some of it's forward momentum.
    I mean...duh.

    Stating this obvious fact unfortunately gets you reclassified as the lazy stupid driver wouldn't bother to put enough chains on it the first place, and in my case, I stated clearly if the "proper" amount of chains would not break, then there is obviously no room for improvement, but then honestly wonder why some of the guys suggesting that are drooling over the custom built (I guess for no reason) big dollar trailers that re-orient and cradle the coil?
    I mean...that's a fair thing to wonder right? Basically it's like some of the drivers here are suggesting the engineers and financial backers who built those trailers are just compensating for being stupid and lazy right?

    I find these to be logical statements. Sue me.
    Logical statements followed by pages of sermons.

    Would I trust my life to the rack?
    Let me put it to you this way. If a coil or anything else is properly secured, but still has some risk of breaking it's securements at 100% braking application, or minor accident, then I would feel more safe if there were a secondary obstacle between that load and the cab.
    Now read it verbatim please. Yes, I would feel more safe. Would it be practical for everyone (including myself)...maybe not.
    Do I *need* to feel more safe? I don't really care all *that* much. But again, would it make me feel more safe...yes.

    Hopefully that makes sense.
     
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