To crane or not to crane

Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by Doing_flatbed_nc, Jun 6, 2016.

  1. Doing_flatbed_nc

    Doing_flatbed_nc Medium Load Member

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    I understand that. But the heavy haul here that hires with less than a year of experience suck. I was working 14 hours local hauling equipment and OS and whatever else was needed and at the end of the week, I made less than a brand new swift driver.

    I have experience chaining, strapping, and tarping. For insurance purposes, I just need more miles / time on the road before I can get on with the local heavy company
     
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  3. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    My point was go with an open deck carrier, not a box carrier. If your plan is to get into heavy haul, the more experience running flats, steps, double drops, rgns the better. So get that otr experience with someone like tmc or btc, even melton. Then in a couple years move up to someone like keen so you can advance up from regular flat to more specialized.

    Heavy haul is a very specialized field. It's a long term goal. No one that is worth working for is going to even look at your application until you get a LOT of open deck experience.
     
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  4. Doing_flatbed_nc

    Doing_flatbed_nc Medium Load Member

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    Thanks but I don't think much of the starter flatbed companies.

    Not enough miles + freight is usually shingles, pvc pipe, lumber- nothing to get excited about and nothing a van driver couldn't handle after two strap down lessons.

    I think I'll be happier getting wheel time with a van for a year than tarping shingles.

    Then, my local heavy equipment haul company will be able to take me on (insurance reasons). I'll chain a load down for them after the interview. I'm sure I'll remember how.

    I understand where you're coming from. I just don't like the starter flatbed companies.
     
  5. macavoy

    macavoy Road Train Member

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    Since you have it all figured out flatbed_NC,

    Would you do a favor to all the other up and coming wannabes and chronicle your journey for us.

    Or will you be like all the other know it alls and never be heard from again?
     
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  6. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    One thing to keep in mind. This sort of thing often uses union labor, which falls under Operating Engineers.
     
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  7. nate980

    nate980 Road Train Member

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    I don't know any heavy haul company that would even look at a driver who hauled vans to get his experience for insurance. Tying down boring loads may suck but it shows you want to work hard and aren't afraid of getting dirty. I hauled a van for 2 months in my 5 year career and I couldn't do it. Got so boring. Was even a good private company that paid hourly on the highway. I quit to go haul cars which lots of companies I've interviewed at says looks good on a resume.
     
  8. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    It's about 50/50 around here. Of the 4 major crane outfits in this general area, 2 of them are union.
    I've worked around both and there's not a whole lot of difference other than the union guys won't hardly miss a break.
    I know other parts of the country can be quite different. In some of the heavily unionized states, if you drive a truck that's all you do and even the crane operator doesn't drive the crane.

    I read about a crane job in NY. You had a teamster drive the crane to the job, you had other teamsters bring in the counterweight, another crew then showed up to assemble the crane ( ironworkers I think). The operator arrived and did nothing but sat in the operator cab and ran the crane. In other words, it took about 8 guys to do a job that would only take 3 around here.
     
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  9. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    I was leased to a small heavy haul company, who also has a small van division.

    I can tell you with great certainty, that they wouldn't even even think of putting you in the heavy haul division with only van experience.
     
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  10. RGN

    RGN Road Train Member

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    Cranes are the same as HH I think. I had guys ask me if I was hiring operators- what experience/certs to you have? "I ran a boom truck setting trusses for XYZ Lumber". And that qualifies you to run/drive a 50t AT? I think not.

    As to the OP's question about learning craning-
    1. Rigging shop/shop truck
    2. Rigger I (pays crap, abused by the Rigger II)
    3. Rigger II (Pays better, abused by the operator)
    4. Boom truck/fixed cab
    5. Mobile hydraulic (under 40t)
    6. Mobile hydraulic (over 40t)
    7. Keep working your way up to that big Manitowoc.......
    If you live in a state that requires certification (NCCCO), that can get expensive real fast if the employer isn't paying for it.
     
  11. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    Most operators start out as oilers, I've seen plenty start out oiling on big crawlers and move right into running them. I was an oiler technically at ALL and I have my fixed cab hydro CCO but I have ZERO desire to run a crane.
     
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