Driving on your days off

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by xahmdm, Jul 3, 2016.

  1. xahmdm

    xahmdm Bobtail Member

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    After getting my Class A 3 years ago and getting seat time in a variety of trucks (dump, 30' flatbed, bottom hopper) on a local basis, going to sign on with a national carrier, as at age 55, have not been able to find a worthwhile $$ sales/customer service-type job as I've done for over 20 years. Like millions out there over age 50, I've been un and underemployed but don't show up on Obummers radar screen.

    So, if I run regional for someone out of Columbus OH area I'd still like to help local farmer friend and drive bottom-hopper field to mill on weekends during harvest season. He needs the help and I can use $16.25 per hour he pays to get caught up on bills and bank account.

    What would be the ramifications if I were to get a ticket or accident while driving part-time? Ag drivers in OH don't need a CDL if they're hauling their own product, but not sure how Hours of Service figures into the mix if the weekend is supposed to be my 34 hour reset time?

    Always great reading here, thanks to all!
     
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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Do not do it.

    I once drove off duty, 7 days vacation at home. I was on the other side of the USA as a favor to someone once.

    I made it back and as far as everyone is concerned that trip did not happen.

    Don't do it. I know I wont.
     
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  4. street beater

    street beater Road Train Member

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    Call the state and ask. Just dont give your name. You may be able to run on recap depending on how many hours you put in at your main gig, but many Companies have rules against running for another company while employed... someone here will get more into detail im sure.
     
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  5. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    There is that too. Running for someone else. It's a no win scenario, label your truck the Kobayshi Maru. (Star Trek reference)

    Hell it's a free country do what you want. I did. Once. But you might discover the liability, fines and on and on and on possibly a life time of regret.
     
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  6. Dakota1358

    Dakota1358 Medium Load Member

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    If you ran for the farmer by law you would have to report these hours on your log for the national carrier as on duty hours which then negate your 34 restart.Remember if you should happen to get into an accident with this carrier and the lawyers dig and find out you have been driving illegally you and the national carrier will be sued and depending on the severity of the accident you may be spending some time in jail.
     
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  7. FozzyNOK

    FozzyNOK Road Train Member

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    All compensated work (hours) are required to be logged..
     
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  8. MrEd

    MrEd Road Train Member

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    As long as you log the time driving for the farmer, and report it to your primary company, and don't violate any hours of service total between the 2 jobs, it's perfectly legal. But, most primary companies won't want you moonlighting. And, work you do at a part time job is supposed to be logged even if it is not driving. In that case, say you're a bartender on the weekend, that's supposed to be logged "on duty-not driving". I know it's silly and most won't do it....but to be legal, you have to.
     
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  9. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Ive been reading the Motor Carriers regulations on several trucking jobs and don't have anything left to point to anymore. Anyone else?
     
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    FozzyNOK Road Train Member

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    https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/part/395

    On-duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:

    (1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;

    (2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;

    (3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;

    (4) All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than:

    (i) Time spent resting in or on a parked vehicle, except as otherwise provided in § 397.5 of this subchapter;

    (ii) Time spent resting in a sleeper berth; or

    (iii) Up to 2 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;

    (5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;

    (6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle;

    (7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post-crash, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapter when directed by a motor carrier;

    ( 8)Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of, a motor carrier; and

    (9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.
     
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  11. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Logbooks used to have two blank employer name and address lines to fill in so that you had some flexability to show which employer you are logging under. I don't know if the Elogs today have that ability.

    And again, thank you kindly for displaying the stack of regs, it is appreciated.
     
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