Schneider National Carriers - Green Bay, Wi.

TeeHee! Thats funny, I like you!

I actually own and operate my own plumbing company out of Orange County California, I haven't watched the stock market for quite some time now however was a Real Estate Agent and in Property Management for quite a number of years, and I prefer cigarettes to cigars, although I do belong to the Red Cloud Club...teehee!

 

Ok if you had your cdl and all endorsements since 2006 why did you not use the cdl?

Why would one get a Cdl and not start using it to make a living?

I would not waste the money for the cdl if I was not going to use it.

Or did your First training company in 2006 fire you for drinking too?

 

it never ceases to amaze me how people are willing to do things that could jeopardize their new career. you knew it was against the rules but thought you would get a second chance, that's just stupid, period.

i think that everyone here has made it clear that your actions are not defensible nor were they responsible. you broke the rules, got burned and want someone to pat you on the back, not gonna happen.

we have all made mistakes, myself included. but, when it comes time to get the training for something that you really want to do, you have to have the personal responsibility to abstain from certain behaviors and make sacrifices. if you are attending a school to become a professional driver, the ability to do this is a must. professionals know the rules and play by them - it's the lack of professionalism that is killing this industry right now and why truckers get such a bad rap.

if you think that drinking while on a trucking company's time is acceptable, read the thread on here about the swift driver that was arrested & fired for drinking in his truck at a truckstop while parked for the night. there is a zero tolerance policy for drinking while on duty or on/in company property in this industry. what's more, companies have rules that you need to follow when you are outside of work as well (some of these are LAWS). The rules (and in some cases laws) prohibit drinking within 12 hours of coming on duty (law) and some even go as far as prohibiting it within 24 hrs.

in some states, laws are written such that if you are drinking while your commercial vehicle is on your property and you have the means to operate it, you can receive a dui/dwi charge. the rules surrounding alcohol when it comes to commercial vehicles/CDL holders are much stricter than those for just regular folks.

in all honesty, it's probably a good thing you washed out as a trucker. union jobs? forget about it, they'll get wind of your discharge from schneider (AND WHY) and will most likely not hire you either. have you considered tending bar? however, thinking about it, even in some states it's illegal to drink while tending bar ... and you'd probably get fired from that as well.

 

Well, that's another thing, I didn't like the fact that I was having to go through training all over again. I already have my CDL with endorsements and quite frankly a little refresher course is all I am interested in at this point not full blown schooling from the beginning. Schneider does this to get a commitment. Let's face it fellas, truckers are very transient people just like plumbing technicians.

The assumptions you people make are terrible!

The answer to your question is no. I did not get fired for drinking at the first company, nor have I ever been let go or kicked out of any place for anything.

I am a fully licensed professional running my own plumbing business in Orange County California. I have a R.E License and sold both residential and commercial. I have also been in property management for quite a number of years.

As for getting into trucking and going totally in a different direction. Sounds fun and exciting and I will choose another company down the line and be very picky in doing so.

As far as the wine I had with my dinner that night? So what. It's not like I presented myself the following morning with a hangover at 4:45 am or didn't show up at all or held a wild party in my room - not at all. Just studying over the same stuff I had already been through and watching Ice Road Truckers on cable. I showed up as usual, bright eyed and ready to roll.

 

well under 392.5
the way that I read it is you must not be under the influnce within 4 hours before going on duty.
So that means that you must stop drinking and have enogh time to sober up and be sober atleast 4 hours before going to work driving.
Most companys go a little futher and say no drinking within 12 hours of comming to work.
As far as the swift driver he was considered being at work because he was on the truck.
Just because he was on his required break does not mean anything he was still on the truck and under the influnce.
I think it is a good policy for 24 or more hours to be sober before getting on the truck.

 

Who said I was washed up as a trucker? Who said I was looking for a "pat on the back?" And I wasn't fired, I was made an example of from infringing on their rules a bit in a degrading sort of way.

I will look more in to union trucking, why shouldn't I? There is nothing deviant on my record, it's as clean as a whistle. Understand I bent a "policy rule" not the "Law" I am not an alcoholic and I do not drink and drive nor do I drink under a load or even waiting for the next load....

So...are you through preaching? When can we sing the hymn?

 

You all are quite lively on the subject of SNI
Please keep your post's polite and respectful

 

just hang in there, got a little more sermon in me.

i said you washed out ... not were washed up. two different things.

i guess we can argue with each other until we're blue in the face. you think you did nothing wrong, others disagree ... something tells me arguing with you won't get the point across ... nor will reason.

all of this being said, yes, let's sing a hymn ... one appropriate for the situation ...

99 bottles of beer on the way, 99 bottles of beer!
take one down, pass it around, 98 bottles of beer on the wall!

 

See you think drinking while you are getting training at someones place that is paying for your room and board etc. is not a problem.

Personally I do not think you should be driving a truck you lack personal responsibilty.
When you are out there on the road you will be looking for a drink while you are in the truck.

There is no place in the trucking industry for a person that thinks they can drink anytime they want.

No matter what rules or regs you break or as you call it bend them a tad.

When you are driving out on the road and stop for the night in a truckstop or rest area then you decide to drink you will be in violation of ther fed regs as well as company rules.

What if there is a fire or a hazmat leak and you need to move the truck but you just laid down after drinking a few. Well you can not safely move that truck as you have been drinking.

Are you aware that 0.04 or higher is considered above the legal limit you may get up there faster than you actually know.

I am not trying to pick a fight but I belive all the rules and regs need to be followed especially with drinking or drugs.
It does not matter if it is company rules or the fed regs they all need to be followed.

 

I live in Tacoma Wa.

Agreed. Why pay someone $4500 bucks and then be treated like you are in grade school. Another reason OTR sucks. They want you to pay so they will have trained driver and then pay you by the mile, and be under their boot 24/7? What a life. Whats next? hiring P.I. to sit out in front of your house during time off

What? Did you get told that by AA ( No such thing as a social drinker, all drinkers are Alcoholics) He made the mistake many newbies make in thinking they weren't under the boot of the OTR company 24/7 .

Jeepers Wally, spare me!

That Dispatcher and load planner who routinely rolls drivers to violate the hours of service are breaking the "rules" not to mention the law. But that does not keep them from getting high fives from the management when their numbers are up because of it. In short one should not be gung ho on rules when they pick and choose which ones to enforce.

GTI has the same policy. My X Girlfriend was a customer service rep and a part time dispatcher for GTI and got the boot for having a drink during her lunch hour. GTI Lost the appeal to to the Dept of Labor and industry's because the firing was based on hearsay and not witnessed by the company. She was off the clock and not on company property when she had the drink and no evidence that she was inebriated during the performance of her duties was presented. They had to pay her around $2400 in compensation.

Thats true, he should of whined about how they pick and choose which policy's to enforce and when to enforce them.

</EM>You should of trained at USX OP. They used to get pretty sauced in that hotel behind the TA in OKC. Heck, I thought they were the Gestapo of trucking but it seems the pumpkin has them beat. They would not have batted a eyelash at drinking a glass of wine .