Schneider National Carriers - Green Bay, Wi.

Yeah we are quite lively because the lady posted that sni was a bad company for showing him the door.

But it was her fault for breaking one of the company rules of no drinking while she was in training in one of the company paid rooms.
She even admitted to it in her origanal post

She decided to have a glass or two of wine with her meal at the hotel and then did not see it was a problem.

She thinks just becasue she is an adult she can and will do what ever she wants when she wants to.

 

Were you involved with the SNI thread?
I cant seem to find it
That in class week two reported that week one class mates were seen drinking
And it was decided that a couple drinks with dinner was OK during class???

 

Teeheeteeheeteehee!!! It's MRS. And you are correct in that assumption Mr. MGASSEL, I do what I want and always have.

If they had a problem with my two glasses of Pinot Griego, tough noogies! No One, absolutely No One tells me what to do on my time off.

Understand this - I didn't even have to stay in the hotel in the first place. I am a homeowner in Orange County, California - not far from the training facility located in Fontana.

Schneider are the ones that insist I stay at the hotel - for what? So they can spy and do room checks and go through my personal belongs while I was away at the training facility? That is just a bunch of "Bull doody"

 

You not agreeing that you did anything wrong makes you look bad and shows lack of respect of the rules.

Well if one of the rules is no drinking you broke one.

How can you bend a rule if you broke the one you claim to be bending.

If you can not handle the strict rules then you will not make it at any other trucking company.
They have strict rules to protect the general public as well as other truckers.

Ok here is a hypothedical thing for you
You do not have any hours left on your 70 hour clock but you keep driving to get your load there. Before You get there to deliver you get pulled in for a dot inspection they ask for your log books an find out that you ran out of you 70 hours 10 hours ago but kept on driving.
They also smell an odor of alcohol on you from dinner last night they tell you they want you to do a field sobriaty test on you.

You refuse to take the test next they take your license for the refusal ticket you for being over the hos then tow and inpound your truck.

Do you think that you did anything wrong there?

Or should they turn their head and let you keep driving so you will be ontime for delivery?

 

Why do you not read "everything" I wrote instead of just parts of it that you would like to hammer on?

I already mentioned numerous times that while out with a truck under a load or not I do not have a glass of wine or anything of the likes for that matter. Now you are adding "drugs" into you quote? As if what I did was that serious?

I do what I want and when I want on my time off. My time is my time and no one can claim to own me, I do not care if they put me up in the Taj Mahal. As long as I am where I am suppose to be when I am suppose to be there and doing what I am suppose to do....

I did not have to stay at the hotel, my house is not far, it was Schneider's idea that I stay in the hotel - for what? So they can go through my room and personal belongins, to spy on me? For what?

and You need a reading tuttor MGASSEL to help you understand the full picture on what you have read.

 

sorry I forgot it was MRS
Time off at your home and time off at their company paid hotel room is two different things.
If you can not handle random searches or random testing then trucking is not for you.
Trucking company's can and will search your truck when they want it is their property.
I do not agree with the truck searches but they are sneaky like that.

If you take your truck into the company shop why do you think that they do not want you standing there when your truck is inside the shop.

It is a known fact that the mechanics are told to look through the truck and see if they can find anything in there that is against the rules.

I always set traps up my truck up to know when they snooped through my stuff.
One way to set a trap is close your sleeper curtians perfectly between the cab and sleeper if you get back in and they are not closed orwas not closed the way I closed them I knew it.
I did not have anything to hide but I wanted to know when they looked in through my truck.
I went up to one of the mechanics after I seen my curtians not closed the way I left them and asked did you find what you were looking for?
He was like what do you mean?
I would never give away how I knew but I told them I noticed a few things out of place.
They would say well it must of moved when we pulled the truck out.

Just because you say that you while out with a truck under a load or not you will not drink.
That does not mean that you will actually hold up to your word as you was drinking with dinner during the time you were enrolled in training school.
You signed papers at the school that listed the rules, policy's etc but then you go onto drink a couple during a dinner.

In my oppinion drinking is as bad if not worse than drugs because it can have the same effect after drinking or doing drugs you can still kill someone.

I just belive that all rules and regs company or fed needs to be followed by everyone especially about the drinking and drugs.

Well you were not suppose to be drinking but you just ignored that and your reasoning is I can do what I want when I want well sorry you are wrong on that.
Well when you are in a company provided room,truck etc they can tell you what to do and what not to do even if it is your time off.


If you lived so close you should of refused to stay in the hotel then you may not of had this problem.

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah..and you are going way, way over of what really happened - comparing my situation to a trucker on the road with a company vehicle. Let's get real, shall we?

Don't make the same mistake ol' Mr. MGASSEL keeps making - a mountain out of a mole hill and picking and choosing what I write here instead of reading the whole message.

If you re-read careful you'll find what my story is all about - not that I bent (or broke) their rules, but in how they reacted to it, not to mention how they went about it.

MY OPINION:
It was rather harsh, considering the facts. My reputation is quite good and quite strong regardless of what you and a few others in this conversation are trying to imply. And I might add it's not that "I couldn't handle the rules" the obvious is simple - My time is My time, and as long as I am doing what I am suppose to be doing, where I am suppose to be when I am suppose to be there and not under a load or in possession of their vehicle, I decide what I can do or what I can handle.

The next thing your going to tell me is they have under cover agents following you home on your days off monitoring when you have a drink with dinner.....LUDICRIOUS!

End of story

Thanks to all of you that are really seeing the whole picture and not taking pieces of it to hammer me with a bunch of crap. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however, I ask the rest of you to really read what I am saying before you choose one line to make a poor judgement on my character. You do not know me, sure, but lots of people know Schneider and have their opinion.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by MGASSEL
You not agreeing that you did anything wrong makes you look bad and shows lack of respect of the rules.


And what about their lack of respect to me????

I do not consider what happened to me "a problem" More of a learning experience.

Yes, I should of refused to stay at their hotel. I think I did, and they still insisted. Not wanting to be argumentative, I agreed.

I am actually relieved it happened this way - things happen for a reason and I am a firm believer in this. Who is to say I got down the road with these people and discovered something a lot more serious I didn't like about them? Could I have quit? Yes. Would I still have been charged to the tune of 5,800.00 Oh, hell yeah! To find other more serious problems with them down the road and to top it all off be stuck with a 5,800.00 dollar bill! WONDERFUL!!!

Aside from that, who are you to tell me trucking is not for me??? I AM OFFENDED! It's all the matter of finding the right fit, that's all.

I worked for two other companies before, I regret leaving one of them, the other lied to me and ripped me off blind! I LEFT THE ONE I SHOULD HAVE STAYED WITH FOR THE OTHER THAT RIPPED ME OFF! GO FIGURE! The mistakes a rookie makes!

My cousins which own a few of their own rigs in the state of Alabama got on my case when they found I did not get in writing the cpm they promised to pay which ultimately was the price "I paid" hauling their freight all over the countryside for practically nothing! Not to mention I was never reimbursed for weigh fees, tolls and even a set of straps I had to purchase to haul a full load of beer into New Jersey!

Drinking can be worse than drugs?

MGASSEL, come on! Are we talking about a stone cold alcoholic? or a person that just made a bad judgement call one evening?. You're making it sound as though I have a drinking problem which I do not appreciate - you do not know me or my character so how could you make that assumption?

I respect Schneider's policies and rules - to an extent - I am very stingy and jealous of my own free time. My time IS my time and I shall do what I want with it provided I am not responsible for anothers property.


Schneider calling all my classmates and instructors in from training
to witness the humiliation bestowed upon me was by all counts a nasty thing for them to do....very nasty indeed.


Did I make myself perfectly clear this time? I hope so because this beating the dead horse isn't for me and I really have no more to say on the subject. If someone asks me personally about Schneider it will still be a NO, with a HELL NO to back it up.

Take Care and happy truckin!

 

Or not. They do it to get their money back. You think its free for them to pay their trainers, pay for the trucks and trailers, fuel, hotels, meals...etc?

Also, if you already had a CDL and experience, then you should have been in their four day course. And if you got the boot from that course for alcohol....eek.

Plumbing technician? I can't wait for them to change the name for us from Truck Driver to "Advanced superior freight transportation and logistical movement organization utilization manager"

Owning your own business...I really dont see....whats the poi...is that seriously supposed to mean something?
Real Estate involves a course that makes SNIs training look hard.
Lots of people are in property management. Lots of people are going into foreclosure.

In the end, what you did was crystal clear and there is no denying or getting out of it. They had a strict policy in effect. you KNOWINGLY went out to the store (not a good idea), bought wine (not good) and drank it (not good)...breaking their policy on purpose. No accident. You say it was degrading, I say they made an example of you to everyone else.

And the arugment about yoru time is also not well thought out. What you do on your off time CAN and WILL affect what you do ON time. If you drink off duty, that can affect you on duty. dont think that when 9am rolls around, your body is refreshed and ready to work and drive a umpteen ton truck down the road because you are now working.

Although I do find it interesting that the only one who supports her on this matter is a union worker who told a story of a gal who got fired for drinking. The sticking point was lack of proof. It was never mentioned that she didn't drank...so that means she actually did...its just the company had no proof. nice. When I go to have surgery...Ill try not to ask for another doctor when I saw mine at a bar on his break because I had no proof.

 

ziggy...you crack me up! i wish i had a business card to put a title like this on. maybe when i'm driving i'll have to get something like that ... just to pass on the laughs.