Picking my own freight baby! My journey to & of being on Schneider choice, the Adventure & Numbers!

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  1. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Not at all. While it didn't apply to otr guys that much, it absolutely applies to local guys that have a regular schedule. The whole point of hos is to make sure a driver is fit for duty. If he picks up a second job working 30 hours a week he had to log that to commit with hos. Do you really want a fuel tanker driver getting a part time gig delivering pizza till 1 am and then getting in his fuel tanker at 5 am?
     
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  3. freightwipper

    freightwipper Road Train Member

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    Right but if the tanker driver partied all weekend on no sleep he can get right back in the truck and drive 11 hours anyways. Hey it's off duty time!
     
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  4. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    This is not a change of policy or regulation, it is a reminder of them.

    As much as I dislike the HOS, I recognize the need for them. Too many drivers will push past the point of safety, or allow others to push them. Either way it ends badly. On October 20th, my friend Mitch Vandenburg was killed by a truck driver operating outside of the HOS. He and two bands mates were in stop and go traffic on I-95 in NC when they were rear ended by a CMV. The truck driver was originally arrested on misdemeanor death from motor vehicle. From what I hear, which is rumor, charges have been upgraded to negligent homicide.

    Everyone in this industry has a story similar to this. If you listen to "old timers" from before the 2004 HOS change they'll tell you their story of a near miss because they had been running hard. The story usually ends with "and I've never pushed that hard again. Its just not worth it". Not every regulation is meant to screw someone.
     
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    So in short, while I'm flipping burgers to make up for shear incompetence that costs me money at every turn I should log on duty? Yes I know your right. But the irony is astonishing.:D
     
  6. TennMan

    TennMan Road Train Member

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    They can't regulate stupid.......but they try.
     
  7. spyder7723

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    If it can be proven he partied all weekend(or did anything that prevented him from having adequate rest before returning to duty) and something happens he will be facing criminal prosecution. See Tracy morgan crash.

    Laws can't stop stupid. No one is suggesting it can. But to claim hos rules about for hire work is just a way to screw drivers over is bullcrap.
     
  8. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    It took me a day to get this joke...:confused::laughing6:
     
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  9. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    I practically totaled my pete rubbing the gaurd rail from that stupid #### back in 01. If my wife hadn't been with me to slap me awake in time to get it back in line i very well could be either dead, or in prison for killing showtime else.

    There is a lot of bs regulations as far as hos rules go, but the emphasis on enforcement of a real hos was needed. If you weren't willing to run stupid hard you wouldn't get the load and for company drivers you would not have a job.

    Edit to add: or want change the change in themselves, it was a change in the culture. Before that as long as your log book want more than a day behind most leo's would give you 5 minutes or so to catch it up. Run as you have to in order to get the load delivered but make it look legal was the culture. That needed to change to run it legal, reschedule the load if you have to.
     
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  10. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, I'd just as soon never talk to anyone in our office. Some days my tolerance for stupidity is somewhat lacking.

    But, they do know I get the job done, which is evident by the lack of returns. :D

    The TL world must be quite the horse of another color.
     
  11. spyder7723

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    Well its the owner world. But by default it also means tl vs ltl. Not many owner operators in the ltl world. There is a lot more differences in the two than similarities.
     
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