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Would this be abandonment?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by xlsdraw, Jan 2, 2017.

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  1. Jan 2, 2017 #31
    ladr

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    Good shop
     
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  3. Jan 2, 2017 #32
    Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Well a couple more comments and maybe another rhetorical question.

    I don't agree with the OP, but I see it a problem with him and not the company. His inpatients and inflexibility seems to be more of the issue than the truck breaking down. I think he is to be blamed not for the break down but for accepting the job and then complaining about it when something happens. Don't really know his background but asking the question I assume it is newbie status.

    Then the question I posted is legit, it goes to the owner and his cheapness. Again as I've said the one problem I see is marginal fleet owners who can't absorb losses like this. Here is what I would do and I know that it would cost me money but it is about the customer - I would have the towing company tow the thing to the receiver and then have it unloaded. As mentioned some places are tight but that's not really a problem, you can always find someone to put it into the dock after it is off the truck. I would eat the cost of this to keep everyone happy, and pay the driver. BUT that's me not 85% of the fleet owners out there.

    SO it begs a question I also wonder about - why did this driver take a job like this when he was told something about 'gliders' and gets there to see something else?

    By the way, I could save lots of money with gliders, lots of money but I came to the conclusion that they are assembled trucks by companies that may not do a good job so I buy what I can have warranteed.
     
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  4. Jan 2, 2017 #33
    Grumppy

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    I know these two laws have been around since the '90's cause I used them a few times when I worked at Waste Management between 1993 & 2004. After showing my hand they backed off of me & at minimum, my trucks were normally road worthy although not great. The thing in my situation was, they knew that I had records, pictures & documents. They knew me well enough to know that;
    1) I knew the rules,
    2) they knew I was just smart enough that I never put my head in a noose unless I had a knife in my back pocket,
    3) they knew that I could call their bluff & could back it up.

    I dont know if they still are but at the time, WM was a world wide company. They had offices all over the world in many countries. A very powerful company.

    The reason companies can treat their employees like crap & can put them in unsafe vehicles (in this case) is because they know the law & they dont expect the employee to know the law.
     
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  5. Jan 2, 2017 #34
    xlsdraw

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    There is no bad guy here to this point. Abandonment ? was based on another driver being able to pickup and deliver the load on time. The point was, should the truck be projected to be down for days, could I end employment with the tractor at shop broke down and load covered. Anyways, they do hire down here, and originally, they were going to have me pickup a truck at a shop down here, instead of flying to Minnesota. Drug test and all is done remotely. There really wasn't an orientation. Like I said, no bad guy to this point, just a lot of uncertainty. They towed me somewhere else that is closed today. A FL driver that was home for a personal matter is bringing me his truck. I guess I'll be in his either a few days, til I get back to Minnesota, or possibly longer. I don't know. I'm hoping most of their equipment is not like this one. That's all I can do.
     
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  7. Jan 2, 2017 #35
    driverdriver

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    They also know that the majority of drivers won't stand up for themselves.
     
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  8. Jan 2, 2017 #36
    street beater

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    Does the company start with a w?
     
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  9. Jan 2, 2017 #37
    xlsdraw

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    I guess, in my mind, I was expecting very well maintained equipment from a small outfit. I wasn't expecting correctly I guess. You know, give it to me good and I'll keep it that way.
     
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  10. Jan 2, 2017 #38
    xlsdraw

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    No. I have no desire to do any harm. Everyone has a right to run their business how they see fit.
     
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  11. Jan 2, 2017 #39
    street beater

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    I was just curious. I know a smaller outfit that back in the day would run as close to the line as possible, thats all...
     
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  12. Jan 2, 2017 #40
    bzinger

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    Abandon a older truck over a turbo issue ? Would you abandon a new truck that broke down ?
     
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