Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

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  1. Caesar

    Caesar Road Train Member

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    As usual, a completely silly, if not to say stupid response.
     
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  3. Caesar

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    No it is not, I've seen photos of other trucks with similar modifications. The truck will not be ordered as a tractor from the factory, but as a chassis. Then a specialized company will extend the cab, add the fifth wheel etc.
     
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    Any body know how to reseal a tin can ?
     
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    Yes it is. And very poorly. Look closely at the top right of the truck. You can very clearly see just his bad an edit job that picture is. I'm not saying a similar truck isn't built, but that specific photo is a hack job.
     
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  6. Caesar

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    Fine, but like I said I have seen photos of similar DAF trucks, and I've shown photos and even a YouTube clip of the Scania Longline that had a similar cab.
    Now there's always a whole choir of people complaining about the size of standard EU sleeper cabs, and that this is why EU trucks can not be used in NA, and then when I ask about their opinion of such a cab, it all gets very quiet. That happened again this time.

    So let me show you photos of the interior of the old Scania LongLine:

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    Talking about a spacious cab .......

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    Now, is this sleeper too small for the most of you????
     
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    I didn't go through this and read everything but heres my thought on Euro trucks ---

    Its not that we all hate them or wouldn't drive them. But America still just loves old muscle power..

    We like square bodys and big horsepower... Sure we will drive a new honda and be comfortable but we all wish we was in the 69 Chevelle SS with a blown big block....

    As long as they still making Petes and KWs with big square noses and big stacks and lots of chrome and chicken lights from 1 end to the other. All us driver out here will wish to have that rig. Our rigs gotta fill our Egos..
     
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  8. Caesar

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    That is a good answer.

    However, with regard to the muscle power, you have a problem. Apart from the Cummins engines, almost all engines in NA are in fact of European design. You may not even get the most powerful engines in NA, the Volvo D16 for instance is only available in 600HP in NA, but you can get a 750HP version in EU.

    Don't know about Detroit (=Mercedes), but it wouldn't surprise me if it is the same there.

    Now the problem with the trucks you describe is that these old fashion designs are aerodynamic disasters, your newer more streamlined trucks are much, and much better. However they don't look so spectacular...

    NA trucks are build to look as if they are big monsters, only a very capable driver can handle such a monster. It's all make believe of course, a myth.
     
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    1 it is not difficult to comprehend at all. You just seem to think the few extra inches above the seats is usable for something besides cabinets for storage. If you'd ever soent any time time in a truck you'd realize how foolish that statement is. Put another way, i have 16 foot cathedral ceilings in my house, so you think that space above my reach its usable due anything out hanging paintings and such on the walls? Of course not, it's just open empty space to make the room feel bigger than it is.

    2: Our trucks also have curtains. We use them to separate the driving compartment from the living quarters.

    3: i do cook and eat dinner in my truck. Breakfast and lunch also. It's not only much cheaper, it's much healthier than eating in a greasy truck stop 3 times a day. It takes more space for these things than what that truck has. Convection oven, keurig coffee pot, crock pot, electric stove top, and refrigerator and freezer big enough to store two weeks worth of food plus two weeks supply of water. And then add two weeks of clothing. That's the mandatory storage and appliance space for a truck designed for a month long(or longer) duty cycle.

    In europe your driver's make due with less space because the conditions they operate in require shorter wheel bases. We don't have those same conditions so we have the option of the greater comfort and better quality of life that more space gives.
     
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    image.jpeg This what I was talking about , a stair case that swings out . Not a flip down step .]
     
  11. spyder7723

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    Look at that photo a little closer. See that small table between the guy sitting and the drivers seat? How much space do you think is between the drivers seat and rear wall? 60 inches? Maybe 66? Also the bed runs along the passenger side wall of the truck that means the passenger seat had to fold down to make room for the bed. Fantastic photography job making it look much much larger than it really is. But realty is, that's about a 60, maybe a 66 inch sleeper. Basically what we consider minimal standards. However, it is designed much much better than the typical fleet specced sleeper here. And the engineers did a fantastic job utilizing the small area they had to work with.
     
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