COVENANT -- From a wife's perspective

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  1. Redcoat wife

    Redcoat wife Medium Load Member

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    Hi Y'all,

    Been reading all your comments and have read some of them to Redcoat. Thanks for all your support. I vote with all you guys in that I think he should get back into the truck and give it another go. I have emailed Covenant to see if they will give me contact information for the five people Rocks had suggested. Either that or pass along my contact information. I told the company that he will be ready to go back to work on the first of the month. I also told them that his learning style did not match his trainer's teaching style at all and that at this point he has very little confidence in his abilities and that he needs to get with somebody new in order to do right by himself and by the company.

    The territory we are working right now is not as good as it was in Texas where I was for five months. The people here in Iowa are working their butts off to keep their houses and shelling out $180 for a picture isn't exactly in their budgets so I'm having a tough time too. I think most of these people (like us) are house poor. They have the nice houses but it's taking both husband and wife working to pay for it.

    But I work from noon till dark on weekends and 5 hours weekdays and I'm pretty tenacious. Redcoat tends to give up too easily and takes rejection personally. I admit it can be tough. I might go through 20 no's to get to that one yes and it does tend to wear you down after a while. Coastie says you really have to enjoy selling in order to be good at it. I don't really enjoy selling per se -- BUT -- I do believe in my product so that helps. That plus the fact that I'm not pressured by my company to make a sale. I just let the customer have a look and if they want it fine, if not, fine. I probably spend all of 3 minutes at the most to determine if they are interested or not. It's not like I spend an hour demonstrating a product just to have them say no.

    But Redcoat has been through 112 pictures with only 2 sales so far. He's going to go out Sunday and finish up his roll which will have him visiting every house at least twice trying to catch someone at home. The whole point (besides making a sale which is good for the cause) is to get *resolution.* You need some kind of decision on the homeowner's part be it a yes (cool $$$) or a no (drat - move on). He needs two more sales to pay for his car rental this week. If he doesn't get them, then we're going to turn it in Monday and I believe he has resigned himself to having to get back into the truck.

    I have pointed out that the money he made this week from his truck driving (a little over $500 -- I can't remember the exact figure) saved our butts as we have a $600 insurance bill due in two weeks. PLUS I just can't blow off the benefits.

    So I think he's working his way to the idea of maybe being with me and being broke is worse than being away from me and meeting our expenses. He admitted that the $500 paycheck was good but he reminded me that it was 7 days straight of nothing but drive/sleep/drive/sleep. And of course I reminded him that that kind of brutal schedule wouldn't be forever; just until he got done with training and the 6 months of team driving. Once he got certified, he could look for something a bit more 'normal'.

    I only hope that Covenant won't pull a fast one and say they thought he quit or something. Hopefully I'll hear something from them next week on a new trainer.

    Oh, and Honor Roll mentioned expiditing with a Class B license. Redcoat had definitely given it some consideration and if he can find a company that does that kind of work nationwide I know he'd definitely apply.

    Finally, AfterShock mentioned putting down roots somewhere. The thought had occurred to me but that would mean that I'd have to find a new job also that's paying at least what I'm making now. I'm just kind of leary going back to the stationary thing after working so hard at my last job (it was kind of my life and it defined me) and then just getting fired without a second thought for something somebody else did so that all those years were for nothing and then having to sell my house and all my stuff......... That point in my life was pretty traumatic and I really don't care to set myself up like that again.

    This is probably way more information than you guys care to hear about and it's probably way off topic too so I won't bore you with any of the gory details.:biggrin_25512:

    But I WILL let you know how it all shakes out and what I hear from Covenant (if anything). Hopefully that door hasn't closed and it's not too late.....
     
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  3. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Thanks for the updates :biggrin_25519:

    Maybe things will smooth out, and he can get back on that horse with no issues this time.
     
  4. JackMac

    JackMac Light Load Member

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    Good Luck Redcoat! Life is full of bumps, big and small. My family has sure had our share of them!!

    A person is not judged as much on how well they handle success but how well they deal with adversity.
     
  5. mt1trucker

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    Let me start this by saying that if my wife were not out here with me I would not be driving at all.....also, if we had had ANY other option than for me to get a cdl and go out with a trainer for 42 days without her, I would never have done it. Fast forward 18 months or so......
    Things are going great, we've been out here together for 18 months, 6 more months and I'll have 2 years in with the same company, (other than a 3-week nightmare with Knight Trans.) no tickets, no accidents and no service failures..... we're pretty proud of that
    That being said........

    The time out with a trainer SUCKS :biggrin_25516: it really does, especially if you have someone at home that you can't stand to be away from. I got my CDL and went thru training at 42 years old so I wasn't about to put up with some clown telling me I need to speed up, or any of the other things Redcoat has had put up with. Tell him if he wakes up, does a proper pre trip, drives as far as he is comfortable, takes breaks whenever he needs to and at the end of the day he parks without hitting anything,.....then he has done a good job. :biggrin_25525: My trainer spent about 15 minutes in the seat beside me on my first day, then told me he was going to take a nap, just flip the cab lights on and off if I needed anything. I guess baptism by fire was his way of training. My 3rd or 4th day I was driving thru a driving rainstorm, I mean really pouring at 2-3 am....somehow he wakes up, cracks the curtain and says why are you driving so slow?! I told him thats the speed I'm comfortable with, don't worry about, go back to sleep. That night when I parked in a rest area, he was trying to get me to allign the trailer with the stripes on the ground.......I told him I was doing fine.....he said just forget it, I'm not going to say anything anymore cuz you just don't listen!
    I said that was a good idea since I had been on my own from day one anyways. He did have a very specific way to teach on how to back into a spot.....and I learned his way but as soon as you're on your own you just do it by feel, don't let redcoat be frustrated, it will come. In the end my trainer was a pretty good guy, a little long on the church lectures and a few too many stops so he could run into the woods to take care of some "digestive problems" (some medical condition, long story), but all in all he was a good guy. It has to be frustrating to be a trainer and I'm sure it takes a certain type of individual, it's just a shame that people who have no business training....do it anyways just to chase the $$$.
    I gotta run, off to Springville Utah for a Monday afternoon drop. It really is fun once you have your own truck and get a good relationship going with your DM. My wife and I will check in with you later and if you need a womans perpective she's been out here for every single day of the past 18 months so she might have a better take on things for you.
    Good luck to both of you :biggrin_255:


    by the way.....my wife does not drive but she is the absolute perfect "wingman" :) she does directions and qualcoms and helps me with everything. We have an awesome DM that sends us to places we like so we make little mini-vacations when we do our resets.
     
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  6. coastie

    coastie Road Train Member


    There are many ways of selling and working for your self. Thousands are doing it every day. Tried Selling on Ebay? and there are hundreds of other sites. I will send you a PM with another site a friend of mine owns.
     
  7. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    Considering that there are husband/wife teams pulling in
    upwards of $80,000 to $100,000 a year, and more, would that match
    y'all's current income?

    As as added bonus, you'd be together all the time for
    support and encouragement. And could probably take your
    days off anywhere you chose to.

    The dark cloud known as Big truck truckin' could also have
    a silver lining.
    There are smaller outfits that love husband/wife teams and put them in some very nicely spec'd Big trucks, know y'all by name, and don't run y'all ragged. There are also truckin' companies who specialize in doing trade shows. You'll be away from "home", sometimes for a month or more at a time. Most of that time you'll be sitting in a motel or hotel for days or weeks at a time paid for by the company --- as well as being saleried. It's customary for the company to also provide a rental car. I/C's and O/O's appreciate a gig like that because they aren't running their Big truck's miles off the odometer or paying the usual road use taxes for running 120,000, or more, miles a year.

    And, as an added bonus, most trade shows use union labor to unload and reload. Unless y'all have a union card, y'all AREN'T allowed to touch the freight. Y'all just tell the union thugs what to load/unload next in the trailer. Once it's in the trailer, y'all can secure it, usually with ratchet or motorcycle straps --- and you're on your way.

    Trade show drivers are often considered to be part of an elite fleet.
    Y'all get to know each other and it becomes like a family.

    Gigs like that are out there.
    It just takes keepin y'all's eyes and ears open.
    The reason many of those drivers quit is because they don't want to be away from their home with roots as long as is required during trade show season. Especially those assigned to do an entire concert tour, which could last months before seeing home.
    But there ARE drivers who thrive on that.

    The beauty of that, IMO, is, that after ...... say three months out, y'all are entiled to 4 weeks off duty. Often with the option of running general freight if you so desire, until the next trade show or concert tour. And the general freight they'll haul isn't the run of the mill, grocery warehouse junk. More like high-value loads that will take you to places most Big truck truck drivers will never see, or even know exist.

    I've been to gold mines in Nevada, ski resorts high in the mountains of Colorado, a Naval weapons testing facility in Ohio, Indian casinos EVERYwhere, and ship builders in Florida, just for a few examples. Quite interesting.

    Food for thought?


     
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  8. honor roll

    honor roll Road Train Member

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    Could you please send the info my way too please
     
  9. coastie

    coastie Road Train Member

    Ok you twisted my arm, it is Sent
     
  10. Wings2Wheels

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    Redcoat's Wife -

    I have read through all 15 pages of this thread, and all I can say is - WOW.

    What an experience for you and Mr. R, and what a great group of folks on this site.

    I am not a professional driver, but I can certainly appreciate the mountains of great advice you and Mr. Redcoat have been given by those who are.

    I think you and Mr. R would make a GREAT OTR team. Why not? You guys would be together all the time, and if in a past life you were sitting sideways on a FRED, you can sure as heck handle something that weighs in less than ten times the weight of a C-5! That RV of yours is probably more difficult to maneuver than a Big Truck!

    You had mentioned the possibility of setting down roots somewhere. Well, if the eastern states strike your fancy at all (I know you were based at Dover, so you have a clue what they're like), and you two decide to head out this way, let me know. I'm a former A-10 driver, now a Close Air Support Mission Planner with the 112th Air Operations Squadron, Pennsylvania Air Guard. We specialize in providing strategy, planning, and operations to the Combined Air Operations Center (basically we create and execute each 24 hr ATO cycle). We could definitely use someone such as yourself with Airlifter experience. More importantly, after reading your posts, we NEED someone such as yourself with a good head on her shoulders. This happens to be a non-deployable, work-from-CONUS job, and you can do your two-week annual training right at the squadron, so you don't have to worry about deploying.

    There are also plenty of trucking companies in the PA-MD-NJ-NY-VA-DE area, which are all states you can easily commute to drill from. I HAVE to imagine that there is at least one in those states who could appreciate you and Mr. R as a team - perhaps folks on here would be willing to point you two in the right direction if you decide heading back east is something you might be interested in doing.

    In any case, the best of luck to the both of you - I know something will work out in the long run. Life is an adventure sometimes!!!!
     
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  11. Redcoat wife

    Redcoat wife Medium Load Member

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    OK. First off let me tell you all that Redcoat has decided that he's ready to get back into the truck. Well, actually, he's not THAT ready but he kind of has no choice. I haven't heard anything from my email to Covenant so I'm going to have him call them tomorrow to see if he's still even got a job with them.

    Now to all your great ideas that you've posted.

    mt1trucker --
    I don't doubt that it is a lot better in your own truck and I fully plan on hitting the road with Redcoat every once in a while when we get caught up on our bills. Hopefully he'll have a job with an outfit that will allow dogs because we have a pair of Shih Tzu and no way am I leaving my fur-children with anybody for that length of time. Plus I'll have to figure out a safe place to park the RV while we're gone.

    Coastie I got your PM and yes, I've done the eBay thang in the past. That was when I actually had a house and STORAGE space as my ex and I were into diecast cars there for a while. Also did the flea market thang. But now that I live the gypsy lifestyle even just a couple boxes of frames take up almost one whole side of storage space under one of my slides. So trying to sell stuff on eBay is out because that implies that you have a place to put the things that you're trying to sell. Good idea though.

    AfterShock and Wings2Wheels mentioned husband/wife teaming. I had given that some serious thought but there are two main things that are holding me back. First, Redcoat has this very annoying tendency of directing me where he thinks I should go in tight maneuvering situations. He even does it when we're in my truck and driving around in a parking lot looking for a parking space telling me which space to get. But he gets really bad in the rig and if I don't do exactly as he says he raises his voice which aggravates me to no end and one time it got so bad I banished him to the bed in the back and told him to hush. Prime example... if I miss a turn, sometimes I will drive many blocks looking for a place to turn around that has enough space that I feel comfortable with. And, yes, I probably pass up some places that I could have gotten in and out of but usually it's because I don't see them in time. I have to be able to see a place in enough time to evaluate it and determine if I can maneuver a 40-foot rig through it with an SUV in tow. One time I got jammed up at a TA (of all places) and had to disconnect my truck in order to get backed up and turned around; then go out and reconnect to get back on my way. So after that little fiasco, when I have to do some maneuvering, I like to make durn sure that I can make the turn. Redcoat, meanwhile, is in the right seat berating me on all the missed opportunities (in his mind) to get turned around and I'm sure you get the picture. I can just imagine what it would be like in a semi and that's not something I feel like putting up with. Redcoat is the nicest man but he and I in a big rig together with me driving just wouldn't work.

    The second thing is I'm not sure I could pass a physical as my knees are "knackered" as Redcoat puts it. (British for 'worn out') I have a touch of arthritus in my knees and I can't squat down easily. Well, actually I probably can now (been taking joint supplements) but I'd have to have somebody take my hand or get something to grab onto to help pull me back up. So that's a consideration there.

    Wings2Wheels, I have not heard the term FRED in many years. :sign5:
    Also thanks for the job offer although they'd probably never let me back into the guard/reserves because of my weight. Not sure 220 would cut it.
    ***yeah everybody that's what I actually weigh and I don't give a crap who knows it :blah5: ***
    But if you got a straight civilian job, now I might be interested..... maybe. Would have to be pretty lucrative to get me to park the rig.

    But, hey, thanks for the well wishes! I had a decent weekend with the pictures. Sold 14 in three days (Thurs., Sat. & Sun.) so that's about $700. Not too bad but so much stuff needs to be paid like NOW that I just can't get caught up fast enough.

    Anyway, just thought I'd let you know that Redcoat is ready to try again. Will let you know if we hear anything from Covenant as to what his status is.
     
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